Warren Commission (04 of 26): Hearings Vol. IV (of 15)
Part 11
Mr. EISENBERG. And the one on the right?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. The one on the right was taken at approximately 400 diameters.
Mr. DULLES. This is the blanket sample?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. This is a hair from the blanket compared with Oswald's.
Mr. EISENBERG. You have three photographs on this chart, of which two are known Oswald hairs, the photograph on the left and one of the two photographs on the right?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. Actually, this is one photograph taken through a comparison microscope. We are looking at two different hairs at the same time.
Mr. EISENBERG. Yes. Well, when you say this is one photograph you are pointing to the one on the right but, as I understand it, the photograph on the right shows two different hairs?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. That is correct.
Mr. EISENBERG. One of which is Oswald's hair, a known sample?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. Yes.
Mr. EISENBERG. And the other of which was obtained from the blanket?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. Yes.
Mr. EISENBERG. And the photograph on the left shows known samples of Oswald's pubic hairs?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. That is correct.
Mr. EISENBERG. So we have in effect two views of Oswald's pubic hairs, one on the left and one half of the composite photograph on the right?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. Yes.
Mr. EISENBERG. Following up on Mr. Dulles' question, the photograph on the right seems to have a much coarser and somewhat darker structure in both the known and the questioned sample than the photograph on the left, which is simply a known sample.
Mr. STOMBAUGH. That is correct.
Mr. EISENBERG. And you said that was because of the enlargement?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. The difference in the enlargement. The photograph on the left was taken with the microscope set to magnify the specimen 100 times. The photograph on the right was taken with the microscope set to magnify the specimen 400 times.
Mr. EISENBERG. The photograph on the right does not seem to show a hair four times larger, so I don't understand it.
Mr. STOMBAUGH. It was on the enlarging of the photograph itself.
Had these two prints been enlarged at the same enlarging factor, the hairs on the left, would be much, much smaller than the ones on the right. This was just blown up to this size so the hairs could be seen.
For instance, had we not blown these up, here we see them magnified 400 times, and this other photograph is a natural shot.
Mr. EISENBERG. Now, here you are pointing to photograph 669, and the second shot which you call "natural" is 668?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. Yes, sir. You can see the difference in the diameter and the difference in the detail of the photograph.
Mr. EISENBERG. Were those photographs of the different magnifications?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. Yes; they were.
Mr. EISENBERG. What was 669, do you recall?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. I believe it was approximately 400.
Mr. EISENBERG. And 668?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. Approximately 100.
Mr. EISENBERG. So it corresponds to the difference in the right- and left-hand portions of 672?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. Yes; it would.
Now, the characteristics we look for in making a hair match. First would be the color.
The matches I found in Oswald's hairs. His hairs vary from light brown to a medium brown shade.
Mr. EISENBERG. Are you talking about the known samples now?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. This is his known sample. In this particular match the color was medium brown, and looking at the hair throughout its entire length, it ranged from a medium brown, and this color remained constant to the tip, where the color changed to a light brown and the very tip of it was transparent, it was clear, had no color at all. There were no color pigments in the tip of the hair.
Mr. EISENBERG. Are you referring now to the pubic hair which you illustrate on the right-hand side of 672?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. Yes; I am referring to the pubic hair.
This is the gross appearance. I looked at it under low power where I could see the entire length of the hair.
Next, the thickness of the hair, or the diameter of the hair shaft. I found this diameter to be rather narrow for pubic hairs. Pubic hairs ordinarily are rather thick. Oswald's hairs were relatively narrow. Pubic hairs also have what we term nobbiness. You can see a nob right here, it is twisted----
Mr. EISENBERG. Could you circle that with a pen, and mark it "A" on chart 672?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. Here we see that it twists and it is very uneven. The shaft of the hair is generally very uneven in pubic hairs.
However, in Oswald's pubic hairs we had very little of this. The hairs were very smooth. They lacked this nobbiness. The upper two-thirds were extremely smooth for pubic hairs. This was an unusual characteristic.
The tips of Oswald's pubic hairs were not worn. They had a very sharp tip and very clear. Ordinarily pubic hairs are rounded at the tips, and not pointed--this is from wearing against clothing--at all. This would indicate to me that his pubic hairs were rather strong, much tougher than the average persons.
The cuticle, in other words the very thin layer of scales covering his hairs, is very thin for pubic hairs. The scales exhibited a very small protrusion on the outside. The distance they protruded from the shaft of the hair is very slight.
Mr. EISENBERG. When you talk about the protrusion, do you mean the distance between the point of the scale and the balance of the cuticle, the center of the cuticle?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. That is correct. Some hairs will have a sawtooth effect, will look just like saw teeth do when you look at the blade of a saw.
Mr. EISENBERG. From the protrusion of the scales?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. From the protrusion of the scales. Others will be very small, have a slight protrusion.
Mr. EISENBERG. How was Oswald's?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. It was a very small protrusion. The gapping of Oswald's hair was very slight. In other words, between the cuticle and the cortex, the cortex of course containing the color pigment in the hair, occasionally you will find hairs where there will be no color pigment in areas up near the cuticle. There will be a gap there.
Oswald's hairs, as you can see here, have some gapped areas in there but not too many. They are very irregular, and the gapping does not go down too deeply into the cortex.
Pigmentation of his hairs was very fine, equally dispersed, and there was some chaining together of the larger pigment granules noted. In other words, three or four of the pigment granules were chained together. Instead of being dispersed such as they are in Exhibit No. 666, you would have five or six of them chained together, forming a slight irregular-appearing streak.
Cortical fusi, the air spaces present in the hairs such as I have drawn here on Exhibit 666, were for the most part absent in his hairs. I found very, very few of them, and would term them absent in his hairs.
The medulla in the hairs, those that contained a medulla, was constant. It was a continuous streak for the most part. There were some slight broken areas in it. The hairs of Oswald, that did not have a medulla, there was not a trace of one present. It was completely absent. This is unusual. Usually, you will find that the hairs will contain a medulla and if not in the ones that appear not to, you can find traces of a medulla present. In his I didn't find any medulla at all in several of the hairs.
The root area of his hairs was rather clear of pigment and there was only a fair amount of cortical fusi present. As in drawing No. 666, in the root area, you ordinarily would find a large amount of cortical fusi which rapidly diminish as you proceed out the hair shaft, and in his there was just a relatively few cortical fusi in the root area. I found this characteristic also in some of the hairs removed from the blanket.
Basically, that is the--those are the characteristics I used in matching Oswald's pubic hairs with pubic hairs from the blanket.
Mr. EISENBERG. You have been discussing the characteristics of Oswald's pubic hairs. In each case were the characteristics of the pubic hairs you found in the blanket the same as those you have noted as being present in Oswald's pubic hairs?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. Yes, sir; they were all identical.
Mr. EISENBERG. That is as to protrusion of scale, absence of cortical fusi, chaining together to some extent of pigments, and so forth?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. That is correct.
Mr. EISENBERG. Without going through every item, every item you have named was identical?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. Every item I have found in hair from the blanket?
Mr. EISENBERG. Yes, sir.
Mr. STOMBAUGH. Yes.
Mr. EISENBERG. Could you go on, please?
Mr. DULLES. Just one second, off the record.
(Discussion off the record.)
Mr. DULLES. Back on the record.
Mr. EISENBERG. You have presented at this point a chart labeled "Microphotograph of Oswald's Limb Hairs" on the left, and on the right two subcaptions, "Hair from Blanket" and "Hair from Oswald," and do these--were these photographs taken by you or under your supervision?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. They were taken by me.
Mr. EISENBERG. Are they accurate reproductions of the material which according to the captions they are photographs of?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. Yes; they are.
Mr. EISENBERG. I would like this admitted as 671, Mr. Chairman.
Mr. DULLES. It will be admitted as 671.
(Commission Exhibit No. 671 was marked, and received in evidence.)
Mr. EISENBERG. Could you briefly discuss this exhibit?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. Exhibit 671 is similar to Exhibit 672 in that both contain two photographs. The photograph on the left is an overall shot of Oswald's limb hairs.
Mr. EISENBERG. That is the known?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. That is the known from Oswald.
The photograph on the right contains photographs of two hairs, in this same photograph, the hair on the right being a limb hair from Oswald, and the hair on the left being a hair removed from the blanket.
Mr. EISENBERG. What is the magnification there, Mr. Stombaugh?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. The magnification of these is approximately the same as in the previous submission, the one on the right being approximately 400 diameters and the one on the left 100 diameters.
Now, the one on the right is a limb hair. A limb hair is much smaller in diameter than a pubic hair. That is why there will appear to be some slight change in the size of these hairs.
I compared the limb hair from the blanket with the limb hair from Oswald which matched in all observable microscopic characteristics. The characteristics I found in this match were the color of the hair was light brown through its entire length, and the width of the hair shaft or the diameter was very fine. There was no fluctuation that one could readily see. The diameter of the hair shaft remained constant to the tip, where it diminished down to a point.
The tips of the hairs were very sharp and no abrasion was noted. In other words, the tips of these limb hairs were not rounded as one ordinarily finds. This would indicate the hairs were very tough, the same as the pubic hairs were.
Mr. EISENBERG. Are you describing now the known hairs?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. These are known hairs and the match I made; both.
Mr. EISENBERG. All right.
Mr. STOMBAUGH. The scales were of medium size, had very slight protrusion, and there was very slight gapping in the pigmentation located in the cortex right against the cuticle of the hair. There was a fair amount of cortical fusi equally distributed throughout the hair shaft.
This is not unusual in itself, but the amount of cortical fusi that I did find present is unusual.
The medulla was discontinuous, granular, very bulbous, and very uneven. It was not a constant, smooth straight line such as one might find over here in this pubic hair on 672.
There was nothing unusual noted about the root area of these hairs.
Mr. EISENBERG. And again you are describing the characteristics of both hairs, and they were identical in all these characteristics?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. That is correct.
Mr. EISENBERG. Were there any characteristics in which they were not identical?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. No; not on the limb hair, as I found it matched. I did find limb hairs and pubic hairs and head hairs in this blanket which were dissimilar to Oswald's and definitely did not come from him but the hairs I have talked about here matched in all microscopical characteristics.
Mr. EISENBERG. The other hairs, Mr. Stombaugh, could you make a determination as to race?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. Yes; they were all Caucasian.
Mr. EISENBERG. Could you make a determination as to sex or age?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. No; it is not possible to determine sex or age from an examination of a hair.
Mr. EISENBERG. Could you make a determination as to the number of individuals who had contributed these hairs?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. No; I couldn't. You would have to have a hair sample from any suspected person, and hairs vary tremendously. Even on the same individual head hairs from the same individual can vary from one head area to another.
I have found as many as 12 to 15 different types of hair on the same person's head.
So, therefore, it would not be possible to estimate the number of different people whose hairs have appeared on this blanket.
Mr. EISENBERG. Now, Mr. Stombaugh, are you able to say that the limb hairs and pubic hairs which you found in the blanket and which you have matched with Oswald's in observable microscopic characteristics came from Oswald to the exclusion of any other individual?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. No; I couldn't say that. I could say that these hairs could have come from Oswald. I could not say they definitely came from him to the exclusion of all other Caucasian persons in the world.
In order to say this, one would have to take hair samples from all of these people and compare them and this, of course, is impossible.
Mr. EISENBERG. What degree of probability do you think there is that these hairs came from Oswald? And without putting a precise number on it, let's suppose you took head hairs from 100 Caucasian individuals, how many matches would you expect to find among those hundred different hairs on the basis of your experience?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. On the basis of my experience I would expect to find only one match.
Mr. EISENBERG. That is to say that the 100 hairs would be different from each other?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. Yes, sir.
Mr. EISENBERG. Is your experience, therefore, that the hairs of different individuals do not match in observable microscopic characteristics--within the basis of your experience?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. Within the basis of my experience, I have examined thousands of hairs and I have never found Caucasian hairs from two different individuals that match.
Mr. EISENBERG. Now, when you say that, Mr. Stombaugh, have you been presented with hairs in your laboratory from Caucasian individuals which you knew before the examination came from two or more individuals?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. Yes.
We have obtained samples of hairs from a hundred different people, and would select one hair, give it to an examiner and ask who it originated from, and invariably he would be able to find in the hundred different samples the individual the hair originated from.
Mr. EISENBERG. Now, when a specimen comes into your laboratory, does it frequently come in--and I am talking now about specimens that come in from a crime--does it frequently come in such, so that you have two specimens, two or more specimens, which you know before you begin are from two different people?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. Yes.
Mr. EISENBERG. You are told before you begin that they come from two different people?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. Yes, sir; ordinarily a case such as a murder or a rape, you will obtain the clothing of the victim, the clothing of the suspect in the case, as well as hair samples from the victim and hair samples from the suspect.
Mr. EISENBERG. How many types of cases like this do you think you have processed?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. Processed approximately 500 a year.
Mr. EISENBERG. For how many years?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. Four years--no, three years.
Mr. EISENBERG. In any of these approximately 1,500 cases, have you found a case involving Caucasian hairs in which the hairs from the known two different individuals matched in observable physical characteristics microscopically?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. No, sir; I have never found hair from two different Caucasian persons that matched.
Mr. EISENBERG. Have you found any in non-Caucasian hairs, by the way?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. I have found several cases in which hairs from two different persons of the Negroid race, although the hairs did not match completely, the characteristics were such that I felt that I could not go further with the examination because I could not exclude the hairs. The hairs were too similar. When I make a hair match. I know that any case might go to court, and of course I want to be absolutely certain in my mind.
In these cases I am referring to right now, the hair sample from the victim and the hair sample from the suspect were pubic hairs. They were so similar to each other that I could not find any pubic hairs that I could match with the suspect's pubic hairs, and be certain in my mind that these hairs came from him rather than her. I couldn't do this.
So, therefore, I sent the evidence back without further conclusion. This has happened in approximately three cases. However, I would like to point out that I could not take his, the suspect's pubic hairs, and the victim's pubic hairs and completely match them up under a microscope slide such as the match shown in the chart. They did not absolutely match, but they were too similar for a good determination to be made.
Mr. EISENBERG. What proportion of the 1,500 cases that you have described--approximately 1,500 cases--have involved Negroid as opposed to Caucasian hairs, just roughly?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. I would say about approximately a third. Of course, a lot of these cases we don't know the race. They don't list the race, but in examining the hairs I can tell the race----
Mr. EISENBERG. So in 1,000-odd cases of the Caucasian hair examinations you haven't 2 matches between hairs from different individuals?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. That is correct.
Mr. EISENBERG. And in the 500-odd cases of Negroid, 500-odd cases involving hairs from two different Negroid individuals, you have found three cases where although the hairs were not identical they were so close that you felt you didn't want to go further in your examination, is that correct?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. That is correct.
Mr. EISENBERG. Is that a fair recapitulation?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. Yes.
Mr. DULLES. Could I just ask a question here?
There is a distinction then, as I gather from your testimony, an understandable one, between the comparison of hairs and, say, the comparison of fingerprints, because obviously the hair that you find on the victim has left the assailant and, therefore, you are not looking at the same hair but you are looking at a different hair?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. That is correct.
Mr. DULLES. And that, therefore, distinguishes testimony in regard to hair, we will say, with regard to fingerprint examination?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. Yes, sir; that, and also a fingerprint will remain the same throughout one's life. It will never change. A hair will.
Mr. DULLES. I see.
Mr. STOMBAUGH. You can see my hair, I am starting to get white at the temples. Mine is changing characteristics.
Mr. DULLES. We all do.
But is there--let's say you examine 100 hairs, let's say, that are found on the victim, and 100 hairs that are different hairs that are found on the assailant; let us say that there are certain characteristics common to all of these hairs.
Do you get my question? Let's say 10, not 100, whatever number you want to take.
Mr. STOMBAUGH. Ordinarily, you would find one or two.
Mr. DULLES. That have certain characteristics. You have pointed out on exhibit--on the left-hand side of Exhibit 672, the circle you have made on 672, circle A.
Is there a common characteristic that you have marked on one of the other hairs? I believe the hair marked with the "A," was taken from Oswald himself, the hair on which you have marked that particular characteristic.
Is there any corresponding characteristic that should be marked or indicated on a hair that was found on the blanket?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. Well, I testified as to all the characteristics I found.
Mr. DULLES. Yes.
Mr. STOMBAUGH. Now, the difficulty in using a photomicrograph, you are trying to photograph a round object and as a result of this all of these characteristics just won't appear in focus.
Mr. EISENBERG. To be more specific, Mr. Stombaugh, that circle marked "A" was to show a nobbiness in Oswald's hair. As I recall, you testified there was very little nobbiness present in that pubic hair, as opposed to the normal amount of nobbiness of pubic hair?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. That is correct.
Mr. EISENBERG. On the right-hand side of 672, I suppose we don't see much or any nobbiness in either the known or----
Mr. STOMBAUGH. No; there is none present here.
Mr. EISENBERG. So that would correspond with the point you made as to "A," that there was very little nobbiness?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. Very little.
Mr. EISENBERG. And that is why there is no corresponding mark for nobbiness characteristic on the right-hand side, is that correct?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. That is correct.
Mr. EISENBERG. The right-hand side of 672?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. That is correct. Oswald's hairs, where the nobbiness did appear was in the lower third, in other words, the area from the root out on the shaft approximately one-third. The remaining two-thirds of the hair shaft all the way out to the tip was relatively straight, no nobbiness at all present. This was characteristic. Ordinarily a pubic hair will have this nobbiness two-thirds to three-fourths of the way up. So this was a characteristic which exists in Oswald's pubic hairs which is different from the ordinary or average.
Mr. DULLES. And you found that both on the hairs taken from Oswald himself and on the hairs found in the blanket?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. Yes; I did.
Mr. EISENBERG. Mr. Stombaugh, on this general point, when you make your comparison examination, do you come to your conclusions on the basis of what you see under the microscope, or on the basis of the photographs you take?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. On the basis of what I see under the microscope.
Mr. EISENBERG. Do you usually take photographs?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. No, sir.
Mr. EISENBERG. And you took them--can you explain why you took them here?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. I took these at your request as an exhibit just to show what the hairs looked like. In a photograph it is very hard to try to point out the characteristics of hairs because they aren't clear. Under a microscope you can see each of these points by focusing up and down. If I am looking at the pigment on the hair, I can focus the comparison microscope up and down and see exactly the same characteristics, the pigment is exactly the same size, dispersed about the same, and there is approximately the same amount of pigment in a given area.
Also, the cuticle is of the same thickness. I can line the hairs up longitudinally and see that the tips of the scales match equally as far as protrusion and distance goes.
This you couldn't show in the photographs. In order to show each and every characteristic in photographs, I would have to take 500 or 600 different photographs.
Mr. EISENBERG. So these photographs are just as a general illustration of the kind of thing you see, rather than being given to the Commission as photographs from which the Commission is to make an identification?
Mr. STOMBAUGH. That is correct. If I were to look at these photographs myself, I couldn't make an identification on them because I wouldn't be able to see enough and I would say this looks like this and this looks like this, but so what?
What about the size of the pigments, what about the size of the scales, what about the thickness of the cuticle? I see a medulla here, I don't see a medulla over here. So you just couldn't see all the characteristics in a photograph.