Part 4
_Q._ Have you any opinion on the subject of capital punishment which would prevent your rendering a verdict of guilty, if the evidence was such as to satisfy you?
_A._ No, sir.
_By Mr. Larocque_, for the prisoners:
_Q._ Have you read the account of the capture of the Savannah privateers?
_A._ I have.
_Q._ Have you formed or expressed any opinion as to the guilt or innocence of the prisoners?
_A._ I think not, sir.
_Q._ Have you formed or expressed any opinion whether the facts charged, if proved, constitute the offence of piracy?
_A._ I have not.
_Q._ Have you never conversed on this subject?
_A._ I do not think I have.
_Q._ Have you no recollection of having conversed upon it at all?
_A._ I may have talked about it something at the time, but I do not recollect.
_Q._ Are you a stockholder, or connected with any marine insurance company?
_A._ No, sir.
_Q._ Have you been engaged in Northern trade?
_A._ No, sir.
_Challenged peremptorily_, by prisoners.
_Thomas Dugan_ called. Challenged for principal cause, by Mr. Smith:
_Q._ Have you any conscientious scruples that would interfere with your rendering a verdict of guilty, if you deemed the prisoners guilty upon the evidence?
_A._ I have strong conscientious scruples.
_Mr. Smith_ asked that the juror stand aside.
Defendants' Counsel objected to the question, as not proper in form. Objection sustained.
_Q._ In a capital case, where the evidence is sufficient to satisfy your mind of the prisoner's guilt, have you any conscientious scruples that would prevent your finding a verdict of guilty?
_A._ If I may explain, I would endeavor to find a verdict; but I believe my sympathy would control my judgment to that extent that I would not be able to do my duty between the people and the prisoner. I have been on a jury before, and I doubt that my judgment would be controlled by my sympathy.
_Mr. Larocque_: The witness has not said his sympathies would be of that strength that would prevent his finding a verdict of guilty, if the evidence was satisfactory. A juror that has doubts of himself is the most honest and reliable, according to all experience in criminal trials.
_The Court_: Examine him on that point.
_By Mr. Larocque_:
_Q._ Suppose that upon this trial the facts charged in this indictment were proved by clear and satisfactory evidence, and the Court should instruct you, upon that evidence, that those facts constitute the offence of piracy, would your conscientious scruples be so strong as to prevent your finding a verdict of guilty in such a case as that?
_A._ There must be not a shadow of doubt. It must be strong and conclusive in my mind before a verdict is rendered.
_Q._ But where there was strong, conclusive evidence, you would render a verdict of guilty?
_A._ Yes, sir.
_Mr. Evarts_: It is pretty apparent that the juror does not regard himself as in a position to deal impartially with this question, which involves human life. The intention of this cause of challenge is, that the juror should be in a position to yield to the evidence that just assent which its character is entitled to call for, unimpeded by his repugnance to the result when fatal to human life. Still, if your honor should not think that upon this ground he ought to be excluded absolutely, certainly it would be consistent with the course of practice, and with the just feeling of the juror, that he should stand aside until the panel be made up.
_Mr. Brady_: That practice I understand not to prevail any longer, since it has been provided that the empanneling of jurors in the United States Courts shall be the same as in the State Courts, and we do not consent to any such principle as the gentleman proposes. Your honor has decided that a juror, to disqualify him from serving in a capital case, must say that his conscientious scruples are of such a character that, though the evidence be clear and conclusive under the law, as stated by the Court, they would prevent his doing his duty and giving a verdict of guilty. To my mind, nothing can be more clear and satisfactory than the statement of the juror himself, which exhibits a state of mind that should be possessed by every juror; that is, that he must be satisfied beyond all reasonable doubt of the guilt of the accused before rendering a verdict of guilty; and when be speaks of his sympathy on behalf of human life, it is only that sympathy which the law recognizes where it gives the prisoner the benefit of every doubt. It is true he does use the expression that there must not be the shadow of a doubt; but when the Court comes to expound the law, he will be instructed that it must be a reasonable doubt. I do not see anything against the juror on the ground of conscientious scruples. Your honor knows that the prosecution have no peremptory challenge in cases of piracy or treason, and the old practice of setting aside jurors until the panel is exhausted, and then, if not able to make up twelve without the rejected jurors, requiring their acceptance, has passed. That is decided in the case of Shackleford, in 18 Howard's Reports.
_The Court_ (to the Juror): We do not exactly comprehend the views you entertain upon this question; therefore we desire, for our own satisfaction, to put some questions to you, to ascertain, if we can, the state of your mind and opinions upon these questions, and see whether you are a competent juryman or not in a capital case. It is a very high duty, and a common duty, devolving upon every respectable citizen. The question is this--and we desire that there may be no delusion or misapprehension on your mind in respect to it--in a capital case, if the proof on behalf of the Government should be such as to satisfy your mind that the prisoner was guilty of the capital offence, whether or not you have any conscientious scruples as respects capital punishment, that would prevent your rendering a verdict of guilty?
_A._ In answer to that I would say that this is what troubles me: I want to do my duty; I want to render a verdict fairly and squarely as between the prisoner and the people; but I have this to contend with--I have read that people have been convicted upon the clearest testimony, and afterwards found to be innocent; and before I would have such feelings I would as soon go to the scaffold as send a person there who was not guilty. Therefore my sympathy is so strong that I am afraid to trust myself. I did serve on a former occasion, and I do not know that even then I did my duty.
_Q._ What do you mean by being afraid to trust yourself? Is it a conscientious feeling and opinion against the penalty of capital punishment?
_A._ Yes, sir, it is. I have a great abhorrence of it, if I may so express myself. Yet I should like to render a verdict, and do what is right; but I believe my feelings are too great to trust myself.
_The Court_: We think we are bound to set the juror aside.
_Mr. Larocque_: Permit me to put one question.
_Q._ It strikes me that you are a little at fault as to what the purport of this question is. It is not whether you have an abhorrence of convicting a prisoner of a capital offence. The question is, whether you have such conscientious scruples against capital punishment as would prevent your finding the prisoner guilty, if the facts were proved, and the Court instructed you that those facts constituted the offence?
_A._ I answered before. It places me in rather a peculiar position. As I said, I want it understood distinctly, I desire to do my duty; but there is a struggle between that and my sympathy, and I am afraid to trust myself.
_Q._ But you can draw a distinction between your sympathy and any conscientious scruples against the punishment of death, can you not?
_A._ Well, sir, where it comes to the point----
_Q._ Allow me to put the question in another way: If you are entirely satisfied, upon the evidence and instructions of the Court, that the prisoner was guilty, your conscience would not trouble you in finding him guilty?
_A._ Well, sir, there would be this: I would feel that persons, under the strongest kind of testimony, have been found guilty, wrongfully, and it would operate on me--the fear that I had judged wrong on the facts, and committed murder. That feeling is very strong.
_Q._ If the evidence satisfied you that the prisoner was guilty, would your conscience prevent your saying so?
_A._ It would not now. It might in the jury-room. When it comes to the point, and I feel that I hold the life of a human being, it is pretty hard to know what I would do then.
_Q._ Your conscience would only trouble you if you doubted that your judgment was right?
_A._ Yes, sir.
_Mr. Larocque_: I submit that the juror is competent.
_Juror_: You must take your chances if you take me. I still think I am not fit to sit on a jury to represent the people.
_The Court_: I think we must take the opinion of the juror as against himself.
Set aside. [Defendants took exception.]
_John Fife_ called, and challenged for principal cause:
_Q._ In a capital case, where the evidence is sufficient to convince you of the guilt of the prisoner, have you any conscientious scruples that would prevent your finding a verdict of guilty?
_A._ No, sir.
_By Mr. Larocque_, for the prisoners:
_Q._ Did you read the account of the capture of the privateer Savannah?
_A._ I did.
_Q._ Have you formed or expressed an opinion as to the guilt or innocence of the prisoners?
_A._ I believe not, sir.
_Q._ Have you formed or expressed an opinion whether the facts charged, if proved, constitute the offence of piracy?
_A._ I have not, sir.
_Q._ You think you have no bias or prejudice in this case?
_A._ No, sir.
Challenge withdrawn. _Juror sworn._
_Thomas Costello_ called. Challenged for principal cause.
_By Mr. Smith_:
_Q._ In a capital case, where the evidence is sufficient to convince you of the guilt of the prisoner, have you any conscientious scruples that would prevent your finding a verdict of guilty?
_A._ No, sir.
_By Mr. Larocque_, for the prisoners:
_Q._ You know that this case is an indictment for piracy against the prisoners. Have you formed or expressed any opinion upon their guilt or innocence?
_A._ No, sir.
_Q._ Have you formed or expressed any opinion whether the facts charged against them, if proved, constitute the offence of piracy?
_A._ I have not, sir.
Challenge withdrawn. _Juror sworn._
_Tuganhold Kron_ called. Challenged for principal cause.
_By Mr. Smith_:
_Q._ In a capital case, where the evidence was sufficient to convince you of the guilt of the prisoner, have you any conscientious scruples that would prevent your finding a verdict of guilty?
_A._ Yes, sir. (Question repeated.)
_A._ No, sir.
_Q._ Do you readily understand English?
_A._ Pretty well.
_Q._ You did not understand me when I asked the question the first time?
_A._ No, sir.
_Q._ Do you understand English well?
_A._ Yes, pretty well. There may be some words I do not understand.
_Q._ Did you ever sit as a juror on a trial?
_A._ Yes, sir.
_Q._ Did you understand all the witnesses said?
_A._ No, because I did not hear, sometimes.
_Q._ Do you think you understand English well enough, so that you can hear a trial intelligently?
_A._ I cannot say, sir.
_Q._ You are not sure?
_A._ No, sir.
_By Mr. Larocque_:
_Q._ What is your occupation?
_A._ A bookbinder.
_Q._ Have you an establishment of your own?
_A._ Yes, sir.
_Q._ The men you employ--do they speak English or German?
_A._ Some English--the most of them German.
_Q._ And you transact your business with gentlemen who speak English?
_A._ Yes, sir.
_Q._ How long have you done so?
_A._ Eight years.
_By the Court_:
_Q._ How long have you been in this country?
_A._ Seventeen years.
_Q._ Have you been in business all that time?
_A._ I worked as journeyman ten years, and have been seven years in business of my own.
_By Mr. Smith_:
_Q._ Do you think you can understand English well enough so that you can, from the evidence, form an opinion of your own?
_A._ I think I will.
_By Mr. Larocque_:
_Q._ You read the account of the capture of the privateer Savannah in the newspapers?
_A._ Yes, sir; in some German paper.
_Q._ Did you form or express any opinion as to the guilt or innocence of these prisoners?
_A._ No, sir.
_Q._ Did you form or express an opinion whether the facts charged against them, if proved, constitute the offence of piracy?
_A._ No, sir.
_Mr. Evarts_: We think the juror's knowledge of the language is shown, by his own examination, to be such as should at least entitle the Government to ask that he should stand aside until it is seen if the panel shall be filled from other jurors--if that right exists. Your honor held, in the case of the United States _v._ Douglass--a piracy case tried some ten years ago--that that right did exist.
_The Court_: I think we have since qualified that in the case of Shackleford. It was intended to settle that debatable question, and it was held that the Act of Congress, requiring the empanneling of jurors to be according to the practice in State Courts, did not necessarily draw after it this right of setting aside. We think the objection taken is not sustained.
_Juror sworn._
_Matthew P. Bogart_ called. Challenged for principal cause by Mr. Smith:
_Q._ In a capital case, where the evidence is sufficient to convince you of the guilt of the prisoner, have you any conscientious scruples that would prevent your rendering a verdict of guilty?
_A._ No, sir.
_By Mr. Larocque_, for the prisoners:
_Q._ Have you read the account of the capture of the privateer Savannah in the newspapers?
_A._ I recollect reading it at the time--not since.
_Q._ Have you ever formed or expressed an opinion upon the guilt or innocence of these prisoners?
_A._ Not to my recollection.
_Q._ Have you ever formed or expressed an opinion whether the facts charged against them, if proved, constitute the offence of piracy?
_A._ I have not.
Challenge withdrawn. _Juror sworn._
_George Moeller_ called. Challenged for principal cause by Mr. Smith:
_Q._ In a capital case, where the evidence is sufficient to convince you of the guilt of the prisoner, have you any conscientious scruples that would prevent your finding a verdict of guilty?
_A._ No, sir.
_By Mr. Larocque_, for the prisoners:
_Q._ Have you read the account of the capture of the Savannah? _A._ Yes, sir.
_Q._ Have you formed or expressed any opinion as to the guilt or innocence of these prisoners?
_A._ No, sir.
_Q._ Have you formed or expressed any opinion as to whether, if the facts were proved, as alleged, it was piracy?
_A._ I do not know what the facts are, sir. I have only read an account of the capture.
Challenge withdrawn. _Juror sworn._
_Robert Taylor_ called. Challenged for principal cause, by Mr. Smith:
_Q._ In a capital case, where the evidence is sufficient to convince you of the guilt of the prisoner, have you any conscientious scruples that would prevent your finding a verdict of guilty?
_A._ No, sir.
_By Mr. Larocque_, for the prisoners:
_Q._ You read of the capture of the privateer Savannah?
_A._ I think I have.
_Q._ Did you form or express any opinion as to the guilt or innocence of the prisoners?
_A._ Not that I know of, sir.
_Q._ Have you formed or expressed any opinion whether the facts, if proved, constitute the offence of piracy?
_A._ No, sir, not any.
Challenge withdrawn. _Juror sworn._
_Daniel Bixby_ called. Challenged for principal cause, by Mr. Smith:
_Q._ In a capital case, where the evidence is sufficient to convince you of the guilt of the prisoner, have you any conscientious scruples that would prevent your finding a verdict of guilty?
_A._ I have not.
_By Mr. Larocque_:
_Q._ Have you ever formed or expressed any opinion as to the guilt or innocence of the prisoners?
_A._ I have not.
_Q._ Or whether the facts, if proved, constitute the offence of piracy?
_A._ No, sir.
Challenge withdrawn. _Juror sworn._
_Ira L. Cady_ called. Challenged for principal cause, by Mr. Smith:
_Q._ In a capital case, where the evidence is sufficient to convince you of the guilt of the prisoner, have you any conscientious scruples that would prevent your finding a verdict of guilty?
_A._ No, sir.
_By Mr. Larocque_:
_Q._ You know what this case is for?
_A._ I believe I understand it.
_Q._ An indictment of piracy against the privateersmen captured on the Savannah?
_A._ Yes, sir.
_Q._ Have you formed or expressed any opinion upon the guilt or innocence of the prisoners?
_A._ I do not recollect that I have.
_Q._ Have you formed or expressed any opinion whether the facts, if proved, constitute piracy?
_A._ I do not think I have.
_Q._ Have you any opinion now upon either of these subjects?
_A._ I cannot say that I am entirely indifferent of opinion on the subject, but still I have not formed any definite opinion.
_Q._ Your mind, however, is not entirely unbiased upon the question?
_A._ Well, no, sir--not if I understand the question; that is, the question whether the facts, if proved, constitute the offence of piracy?
_Mr. Larocque_ submitted that the juror was not indifferent.
_Mr. Evarts_: All that has been said by the juror is that, on the question of whether the facts charged constitute the offence of piracy, he has no fixed opinion; but he cannot say he has no opinion on the subject. He is ready to receive instruction from the Court.
_Mr. Larocque_ contended that, as the question of whether the facts alleged constituted piracy, or not, was a most important one to be discussed, they were entitled to have the mind of the juror entirely blank and unbiased on that subject.
_The Court_: Let us see what the state of mind of the juror is.
_Q._ You mentioned, in response to a question put to you, that you had read an account in the newspapers of the capture of this vessel.
_A._ I was not asked that question. I have no mind made up in respect to the subject that would prevent my finding a verdict in accordance with the evidence; but I said I was not entirely devoid of an opinion in regard to the case--that is, the offence.
_Q._ Have you read an account of the capture of this vessel?
_A._ Yes, sir; I read it at the time.
_Q._ Is it from the account, thus read, of the transaction of the capture, that you found this opinion upon?
_A._ No, sir; it is not that. It is upon the general subject that I mean to be understood--not in reference to this case particularly.
_Q._ Do you say, upon the general question, that you have an opinion?
_A._ Well, not fully made up. I have the shadow of an opinion about it.
_Q._ Not a fixed opinion?
_A._ No, sir; I would be governed by the law and instructions of the Court.
_Q._ You are open to the control of your opinion upon the facts and law as developed in the course of the trial?
_A._ Certainly, sir.
_The Court_: We do not think the objection sustained.
Challenged peremptorily by the prisoners.
_Samuel Mudget_ called. Challenged for principal cause.
_By Mr. Smith_:
_Q._ In a capital case, where the evidence is sufficient, in your opinion, to convict the prisoner, have you any conscientious scruples that would prevent your finding a verdict of guilty?
_A._ I have not.
_By Mr. Larocque_:
_Q._ You have read the account of the capture of the privateer Savannah?
_A._ Yes, sir; at the time.
_Q._ Have you formed or expressed any opinion upon the guilt or innocence of these privateersmen?
_A._ I have not.
_Q._ Have you formed or expressed an opinion whether the acts charged upon them, if proved, constitute piracy?
_A._ No, sir; I have not formed any opinion with regard to the question whether it was piracy or not.
Challenged peremptorily by the prisoners.
_George H. Hansell_ challenged for principal cause.
_Q._ In a capital case, where the evidence is sufficient to convince you that the prisoner was guilty, have you any conscientious scruples that would prevent your finding a verdict of guilty?
_A._ No, sir.
_By Mr. Larocque_:
_Q._ Have you read the account of the capture of the Savannah privateer?
_A._ I believe I read the account at the time. I have a very indistinct recollection of it.
_Q._ Have you formed or expressed an opinion as to the guilt or innocence of the prisoners?
_A._ I do not remember that I have, sir. I certainly do not have any opinion now; and certainly would not have until I have heard the evidence.
_Q._ Do you say you do not recollect whether you have formed or expressed any opinion?
_A._ I do not remember that I have, sir. I may, on reading the article, have expressed an opinion on it; but I am not positive of that.
_Q._ Have you formed or expressed an opinion whether the facts charged, if proved, amount to piracy?
_A._ I should not consider myself competent to form an opinion upon that until I have heard the law on the subject.
Challenge withdrawn. _Juror sworn._
Panel completed.
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OPENING.
MR. E. DELAFIELD SMITH opened the case for the prosecution. He said:
_May it please the Court, and you, Gentlemen of the Jury_:
The Constitution of the United States, in the eighth section of the first article, authorized the Congress, among other things, to define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offences against the law of nations.
In pursuance of that authority, the Congress, on the 30th of April, 1790, made provisions contained in an act entitled "An Act for the punishment of certain crimes against the United States." I refer to the 8th and 9th sections of that act, which is to be found in the first volume of the U.S. Statutes at Large, page 112.
In the State Courts, gentlemen, it is common to say that the jury is judge both of the law and the fact; but such is not the case in the United States Courts. The Court will state to you the law, which you are morally bound to follow. But in opening this case, I refer to the statutes for the purpose of showing you precisely what the law is supposed to be under which this indictment is found, and under which we shall ask you for a verdict.
The 8th section of the act of 1790, commonly called "The Crimes Act," and to which I have just referred, declares, that if any person or persons shall commit, upon the high seas, or in any river, haven, basin, or bay, out of the jurisdiction of any particular State, murder or robbery, or any other offence which, if committed within the body of a county, would, by the laws of the United States, be punishable with death; or if any captain or mariner of any ship or other vessel shall piratically and feloniously run away with such ship or vessel, or any goods or merchandize to the value of fifty dollars, or yield up such ship or vessel voluntarily to any pirate; or if any seaman shall lay violent hands upon his commander, thereby to hinder and prevent his fighting in defence of his ship or goods committed to his trust, or shall make a revolt in the ship; every such offender shall be deemed, taken, and adjudged to be a pirate and felon, and, being thereof convicted, shall suffer death; and the trial of crimes committed on the high seas, or in any place out of the jurisdiction of any particular State, shall be in the district where the offender is apprehended, or into which he may first be brought.
The 9th section of the same act provides, that if any citizen shall commit any piracy or robbery aforesaid, or any act of hostility against the United States, or any citizen thereof, upon the high sea, under color of any commission from any foreign prince or state, or on pretence of authority from any person, such offender shall, notwithstanding the pretence of any such authority, be deemed, adjudged, and taken to be a pirate, felon, and robber, and, on being thereof convicted, shall suffer death.