Proceedings, Third National Conference Workmen's Compensation for Industrial Accidents
Part 1
Proceedings
Third National Conference
Workmen's Compensation For Industrial Accidents
Chicago, June 10-11, 1910
Including A Brief Report of The Second National Conference Washington, January 20, 1910
Copies may be had at fifty cents each from JOHN B. ANDREWS, _Assistant Secretary_, Metropolitan Tower, New York City.
GENERAL OFFICERS.
_Chairman_ CHARLES P. NEILL Commissioner United States Bureau of Labor
_Vice-Chairman_ CHARLES MCCARTHY Chief Wisconsin Legislative Reference Library
_Treasurer_ HENRY W. FARNAM Yale University
_Secretary_ H. V. MERCER Chairman Minnesota Employees Compensation Commission
_Assistant Secretary_ JOHN B. ANDREWS Secretary American Association for Labor Legislation
EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE.
(In Addition to the General Officers).
HENRY R. SEAGER, _Chairman_, Vice-Chairman, New York Commission
WILLIAM E. MCEWEN, Member Minnesota Commission
A. W. SANBORN, Chairman Wisconsin Commission
EDWIN R. WRIGHT, Secretary Illinois Commission
JAMES A. LOWELL, Chairman Massachusetts Commission
WILLIAM B. DICKSON, Chairman New Jersey Commission
WILLIAM J. ROHR, Chairman Ohio Commission
HENRY W. BULLOCK, Delegate from Indiana
JAMES V. BARRY, Delegate from Michigan
MILES M. DAWSON, Member-at-large
Proceedings
Third National Conference
Workmen's Compensation For Industrial Accidents
Chicago, June 10-11, 1910
Including A Brief Report of The Second National Conference Washington, January 20, 1910
CONTENTS
PAGE.
I. INTRODUCTORY NOTE, INCLUDING BY-LAWS 3
II. PROGRAM 5-6
III. PROCEEDINGS 7
1. Friday Forenoon Session, June 10 10
2. Friday Afternoon Session, June 10 39
(1) "Worker's Compensation Code," An Outline for Discussion 40
3. Saturday Forenoon Session, June 11 82
APPENDIX,--Brief Report of Washington Conference, January 20, 1910 124
INDEX 136
Princeton University Press Princeton, N. J.
INTRODUCTORY NOTE.
The National Conference on Workmen's Compensation for Industrial Accidents was organized at Atlantic City, July 29-31, 1909. The second meeting was held in Washington, January 20, 1910. The third meeting, June 10-11, 1910, was in Chicago. The nature of the Conference is clearly set forth as follows:
BY-LAWS.
1. The name of this organization shall be the National Conference on Workmen's Compensation for Industrial Accidents.
2. Its purpose shall be to bring together the members of the commissions and committees of the various States and of the National Government, representatives to be appointed by the governors of the different States, and other interested citizens, to discuss plans of workmen's compensation and insurance for industrial accidents.
3. Its officers shall be a chairman, a vice-chairman, a secretary, an assistant secretary and a treasurer, to be elected annually and to hold office until their successors shall have been elected.
4. The business of the organization shall be conducted by an executive committee, consisting of the officers and of other members, said committee to represent at least ten different States.
5. The voting members of the Conference shall be the members, secretaries and counsels of all State Commissions or committees on the subject, one or more representatives to be appointed by the governors of different States, and ten members at large to be elected at any regular meeting of the Conference.
6. Individuals and associations of individuals may be admitted as associate members, and as such, be entitled to the privileges of the floor and to receive the publication of the Conference upon the payment of $2.00 per annum for each such individual member, and $25.00 per annum for each such association.
7. No resolution committing the Conference to any fixed program, policy or principle, shall be deemed in order at any of its meetings, except upon unanimous vote.
8. The funds of the Conference shall be derived from contributions from the commissions and committees on the subject, and from voluntary subscriptions.
The proceedings of the Atlantic City Conference are published in a volume of 340 pages, and copies may be had, at fifty cents each, from H. V. Mercer, of Minneapolis. The proceedings of the Chicago Conference (including as an Appendix on pages 124-135 a brief report of the Washington Conference, the proceedings of which have not been printed _in extenso_), may be had at fifty cents a copy by addressing John B. Andrews, Metropolitan Tower, New York City.
PROGRAM
Third National Conference on Industrial Accidents and Workmen's Compensation
Auditorium Hotel, Chicago
June 10-11, 1910
_Chairman_ CHARLES P. NEILL Commissioner United States Bureau of Labor
_Secretary_ H. V. MERCER Chairman Minnesota Employees' Compensation Commission
_Assistant Secretary_ JOHN B. ANDREWS Secretary American Association for Labor Legislation
FRIDAY FORENOON SESSION, 9:30
BRIEF REPORTS FROM STATE COMMISSIONS
_Minnesota_: H. V. Mercer, William E. McEwen, George M. Gillette.
_Wisconsin_: A. W. Sanborn, E. T. Fairchild, John J. Blaine, Wallace Ingalls, C. B. Culbertson, Walter D. Egan, George G. Brew.
_New York_: J. Mayhew Wainwright, Joseph P. Cotton, Jr., Henry R. Seager, Crystal Eastman, Howard R. Bayne, Frank C. Platt, George A. Voss, Cyrus W. Phillips, Edward D. Jackson, Alfred D. Lowe, Frank B. Thorn, Otto M. Eidlitz, John Mitchell, George W. Smith.
_Illinois_: Ira G. Rawn, E. T. Bent, Robert E. Conway, P. A. Peterson, Charles Piez, Mason B. Starring, M. J. Boyle, Patrick Ladd Carr, John Flora, George Golden, Daniel J. Gorman, Edwin R. Wright.
_New Jersey_: William D. Dickson, J. William Clark, Samuel Botterill, John T. Cosgrove, Harry D. Leavitt, Walter E. Edge.
_Massachusetts_: James A. Lowell, Amos T. Saunders, Magnus W. Alexander, Henry Howard, Joseph A. Parks.
_Ohio_: (Members to be appointed by the Governor.)
GENERAL DISCUSSION "Workers' Compensation Code"
(Outline for Discussion)
Representatives of the Federal Government, Members of State Commissions, Delegates designated by Governors of States, Representatives of Manufacturers' Associations and Trade Unions, Insurance Companies, Russell Sage Foundation and Association for Labor Legislation, and other interested organizations and individuals.
FRIDAY AFTERNOON SESSION, 2:00
WORKERS' COMPENSATION CODE (Discussion continued).
SATURDAY FORENOON SESSION, 9:30
SPECIAL DISCUSSION:
Classification of Hazardous Employments. Repeal of Common Law and Statutory Remedies. Contract vs. Absolute Liability. Limited Compensation vs. Pension Plan. Court Administration vs. Boards of Arbitration.
PROCEEDINGS
Third National Conference
Workmen's Compensation For Industrial Accidents
Chicago, June 10-11, 1910
The third meeting of the National Conference on Workmen's Compensation for Industrial Accidents brought together from widely separated parts of the United States a large number of those who represent the serious thought of the country on this most urgent question. Members of State Commissions in Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, New York and Massachusetts were present and submitted reports. Thirty-eight official delegates were appointed by the governors of States, and, in addition, representatives were present from manufacturers' associations, trade unions, insurance companies, the Russell Sage Foundation, the Association for Labor Legislation, and other interested organizations. Many individuals from the shops, the offices and the universities, attended the various sessions and listened to the arguments of the speakers or participated in the discussions.
Among those present who took an active interest in the meetings were:
Jane Addams, Hull House, Chicago; T. W. Allinson, Henry Booth House, Chicago; W. A. Allport, Member Illinois Commission on Occupational Diseases and State Delegate; L. A. Anderson, State Insurance Actuary, Madison, Wis.; John B. Andrews, Secretary American Association for Labor Legislation, New York City.
James V. Barry, State Delegate from Michigan; William P. Belden, Cleveland Cliffs Iron Company, Mich.; E. T. Bent, Member Illinois Commission; John J. Blaine, Member of Wisconsin Commission and State Delegate; M. J. Boyle, Member of Illinois Commission; Frank Buchanan, Structural Iron Workers' Union, Chicago; Henry W. Bullock, representing Indiana State Federation of Labor.
Patrick Ladd Carr, Member Illinois Commission; Robert E. Conway, Member Illinois Commission; Clarence B. Culbertson, Member Wisconsin Commission and State Delegate.
Edgar T. Davies, Chief Factory Inspector of Illinois and State Delegate; Miles M. Dawson, Insurance Actuary, New York City; F. S. Deibler, Northwestern University, Evanston, Ill.; M. M. Duncan, State Delegate from Michigan.
Crystal Eastman, Secretary and Member New York Commission; Herman L. Ekern, Deputy Commissioner of Insurance, Wisconsin.
Henry W. Farnam, President American Association for Labor Legislation, New Haven, Conn.; John Flora, Member Illinois Commission; Lee K. Frankel, Metropolitan Life Insurance Company, New York City; Ernst Freund, University of Chicago and President Illinois Branch A. A. L. L.
John H. Gray, University of Minnesota and President of Minnesota Branch, A. A. L. L.; John M. Glenn, Director Russell Sage Foundation, New York City; George Golden, Member Illinois Commission; Daniel J. Gorman, Member Illinois Commission.
Walter D. Haines, Member Illinois Commission on Occupational Diseases and State Delegate; Alice Hamilton, Expert Investigator Illinois Commission on Occupational Diseases; Samuel A. Harper, Attorney Illinois Commission; Leonard W. Hatch, Statistician, New York State Department of Labor; Charles R. Henderson, Secretary Illinois Commission on Occupational Diseases and State Delegate; J. C. A. Hiller, Missouri Commissioner of Labor and State Delegate; Frederick L. Hoffman, Statistician Prudential Insurance Company, Newark, New Jersey.
Wallace Ingalls, Member Wisconsin Commission and State Delegate.
Sherman Kingsley, United Charities, Chicago.
Thomas F. Lane, Missouri State Delegate; Julia Lathrop, Director Chicago School of Civics; James A. Lowell, Chairman Massachusetts Commission.
Charles McCarthy, Chief Wisconsin Legislative Reference Library; Edwin M. McKinney, Chicago; Ruben McKitrick, University of Wisconsin; Floyd R. Mechem, University of Chicago; H. V. Mercer, Chairman Minnesota Commission and State Delegate; H. E. Miles, National Manufacturers' Association and Racine-Sattley Company, Racine, Wis.; John Mitchell, Member New York Commission; William H. Moulton, Sociological Department, Cleveland Cliffs Iron Company, Mich.
Cecil Clare North, De Pauw University, Indiana.
Irene Osgood, Assistant Secretary American Association for Labor Legislation, New York City.
Joseph A. Parks, Member Massachusetts Commission; P. A. Peterson, Member Illinois Commission; Charles Piez, Member Illinois Commission; Ralph F. Potter, Attorney Ocean Accident and Guarantee Corporation, Chicago.
Samuel Rabinovitch, Milwaukee Relief Society; G. A. Ranney, International Harvester Company, Chicago; Benjamin Rastall, University of Wisconsin; A. Duncan Reid, Ocean Accident and Guarantee Corporation, New York; C. T. Graham Rogers, Medical Inspector New York Department of Labor; David Ross, Secretary Illinois State Bureau of Labor.
Amos T. Saunders, Member Massachusetts Commission; A. W. Sanborn, Chairman Wisconsin Commission and State Delegate; Ferd. C. Schwedtman, National Association of Manufacturers, St. Louis; Henry R. Seager, Member New York Commission and President of the New York Branch, A. A. L. L.; A. M. Simons, Chicago; Geo. W. Smith, Member New York Commission; John T. Smith, Secretary Missouri State Federation of Labor; Mason B. Starring, Member Illinois Commission; H. Wirt Steele, Charity Organization Society, Baltimore, Md.; Ethelbert Stewart, United States Bureau of Labor; Charles A. Sumner, City Club, Kansas City, Missouri.
Edward G. Trimble, Employers' Indemnity Exchange, Houston, Texas; James H. Tufts, University of Chicago.
Paul J. Watrous, Secretary Wisconsin Commission and State Delegate; Agnes Wilson, United Charities, Chicago; Edwin R. Wright, Member and Secretary Illinois Commission.
FIRST SESSION, FRIDAY, JUNE 10, 1910, 9.30 A. M.
In the absence of Commissioner Charles P. Neill, of the United States Bureau of Labor, who was detained in Washington by urgent official matters, the first session of the Chicago Conference was opened by the Secretary, H. V. Mercer, Chairman of the Minnesota Employes Compensation Commission, and he was unanimously elected temporary chairman for the Chicago meetings.
In formally opening the Conference and assuming the chair, Mr. Mercer said:
CHAIRMAN MERCER: According to the program here, the first order of business for this meeting is brief reports from the different state commissions. I understand there are seven States that have commissions working on the question of compensation for industrial accidents, or perhaps, more properly speaking, for injuries occurring in the course of and arising out of the industries in which they are employed,--for "accidents," according to the courts in some States, do not mean what we want to cover. Some courts use that term in the popular sense; some use it as including, and some use it as excluding, any idea of fault or negligence.
In view of the fact that you have made me temporary chairman, it would hardly be proper for me to open this meeting with a report from Minnesota, and hence I will call upon the other States first.
(Upon the Call of States by the Chairman, the following responses were given.)
WISCONSIN.
SENATOR JOHN J. BLAINE: Our Committee is a legislative committee made up of three members of the Senate and four members of the Assembly. The committee was appointed at the last session of the Legislature in 1909. They have been diligently pursuing the course of their investigations with the object of arriving at a bill which the committee can recommend to the Legislature for its adoption. It was a few months before we got to work after our appointment and it was not until last April that we drafted the first tentative bills.
I would state briefly that the first tentative bills were drafted with the object of drawing out discussion on the part of the employers and employes. We had held some meetings previously, and those who appeared before us were somewhat in the dark as to just what we intended to do and wanted to do, and therefore we drafted tentative bills to which they should direct their fire of criticisms and suggestions.
The first bill presented was a bill destroying the common law defenses, assumption of risk, the co-employe doctrine, and modifying contributory negligence to that of comparative negligence. The second of the first tentative bills was a compensation measure. The purpose of the first bill was to use a "constitutional coercion," as we have termed it, making the compensation bill practically compulsory, but not in the language of the bill declaring it compulsory, hoping in this way to bring it within the constitution. That destroyed the common law defenses and then gave the employer the right to come under the compensation act. Also in that bill the employe was presumed to be acting under that bill unless he contracted to the contrary at the time of entering his employment.
The matter of compensation and the details of the bill are not of particular interest to the Conference, because they are questions concerning which there is very little contention, and they resolve themselves practically to the point of working out the question of arbitration and the measure of compensation and the manner of arriving at compensation, and such court procedure as is necessary, in detail.
We found that our first tentative bills performed the exact object which we intended they should. Neither the committee nor any of its members, I believe, had any idea that the first tentative bills represented their individual ideas or even the idea of the committee as a whole; but they certainly resulted in bringing about discussion, and after those bills were sent about the State to employers and employes they all got busy and we had very valuable and helpful discussions upon those bills. We held a conference in Milwaukee lasting about a week. There appeared before the committee representatives of the Merchants' and Manufacturers' Association of Milwaukee, and from the northern part of the State representatives of the lumber and various other industries. We also had the State Federation of Labor.
After that meeting we met again in May and drafted our second set of tentative bills, the first bill destroying the defense and assumption of risk, and also the co-employes doctrine as a defense, but embodying the question of contributory negligence. That bill, if enacted into law, independent of every other act, would make all employers of every nature subject to the law, whether the employer was a farmer, a manufacturer or whatsoever he might be. The second bill provided practically the same as our other bill.
We found at these public hearings that the question of who shall pay for the insurance, as it is called, is not a matter of great contention in Wisconsin. I think the larger manufacturers, and the great majority of all of them, favor paying the compensation themselves and either assuming the obligation, or organizing mutual insurance companies or protecting themselves with liability insurance policies. There are a few who believe that the employes should contribute a small portion toward the compensation, but I do not believe that is the general sentiment among the employers and manufacturers in Wisconsin.
I think the only serious problem we have to meet is whether we shall take away the common law right from the employe. The Federation of Labor of Wisconsin is very much opposed to that feature of our bill, and personally I am opposed to it. I have expressed that opposition at all the hearings and directed many questions along that line to ascertain the sentiment of employers and employes.
Our bill creates the presumption that an employe is acting under the act unless he contracts to the contrary at the time of his employment, and of course the idea of that is to get around the constitutional provisions; therefore, there will be consent to act under the law, and consent to arbitration, and hence it will no doubt be constitutional. But the employes, through their representatives, believe that they should have the right of selection after the injury has occurred. The Federation bill that they have prepared, follows practically the same lines as the English act, giving the double remedy of a common law right of action, and then also compensation in case of their failure to recover under the common law; but they have gone so far, through their representatives, as to state that they would not ask for that provision in its entirety. While I am not going to speak authoritatively as to just what they will or will not do, I think it is their idea that if they are given the right to elect at the time or within a reasonable time of the injury, whether they shall proceed under the common law remedy or accept the provisions of the compensation act, that they will be willing to waive the double remedy, and whichever act the employe chooses to proceed under, will be a waiver of all other remedies.
That question is going to be debated by both sides and I think if we are going to meet with any danger of defeat in promoting this legislation it will be upon that one subject, and personally I hope that the employers will find that under a reasonable bill, with reasonable compensation and protection drawn about them, so there will be no danger to mulct them in any great damages, that they will be willing to accept some provision giving the employes the right of election at the time of the injuries.
Under the second tentative bill we have had public hearings throughout the State, particularly in the industrial centers, and concluded those hearings last Friday. We expect to meet as a committee, redraft our bills and get them into substantial form, and then I suppose, after we have determined what the committee intends to do as a committee in submitting its report to the Legislature on the essential points, we will then have public hearings and the questions that are debatable will be debated before that committee at these hearings, and then we will make our report accordingly.
NEW YORK.
MISS CRYSTAL EASTMAN: The New York Commission is in a peculiarly fortunate position. Our bills have both passed and one of them has already been signed by the Governor, so that to-day our labors would be all over and we could return to rest, except for the fact that we still have to inquire into the causes and prevention of industrial accidents, the causes and effects and remedies of non-employment, and the causes and remedies for the lack of farm labor in New York State. You will see from this that we received a life sentence on the New York Commission. The Legislature evidently thought it would give to us the solution of all the problems of modern industry and keep the reformers quiet for fifty years. However, we have finished up the Employers' Liability part of our job and we feel that we have done our part of the work in that regard and now have put it up to the Legislature.
When I was planning what I should say here, I rather thought I would discuss the two bills which we have introduced, and passed, and leave out the discussion of how we did the work, but since I have come here I believe it is more important to tell you how we did it, and take it for granted that you know about the bills and are familiar with them.
Our work, to my mind, is divided into five different sections. In the first place we had reports specially prepared for the Commission, one on the Employers' Liability Law in New York State and the other States. That was prepared by our counsel and sent to every member of the Commission early last summer. Then we had a report prepared on the Foreign Systems of Compensation and Insurance: That was mailed to the members of the Commission for their information. Then we had a report on Relief Associations in New York State, which was very voluminous and was not generally mailed, but was kept in the office for reference.