Notes And Queries Number 192 July 2 1853 A Medium Of Inter Comm
Chapter 5
This poem is printed in Watson's _Collection of Scottish Poems_, Edin. 1711; and also noticed in the _Edinburgh Topographical and Antiquarian Magazine_, 1848, last page. I am anxious to ascertain if the emblem writer, and the burlesque poet, be one and the same person. The dates, I confess, are somewhat against this conclusion; but there may have been a previous edition of the _Emblematical Representation_ (1779). The _University_ Clark is supposed to have been an Aberdeenshire man. Possibly J. O. may be able to throw some light on the subject.
PERTHENSIS.
_Christ's Cross_ (Vol. iii., pp. 330. 465.).--In Morley's _Introduction to Practical Music_, originally printed in 1597, and which I quote from a reprint by William Randall, in 4to., in 1771, eighteen mortal pages (42-59), which, in my musical ignorance, I humbly confess to be wholly out of my line, are occupied with the "Cantus," "Tenor," and "Bassus," to the following words:
"Christes Crosse be my speed in all vertue to proceede, A, b, c, d, e, f, g, h, i, k, l, m, n, o, p, q, r, s, & t, double w, v, x, with y, ezod, & per se, con per se, tittle tittle est Amen, When you haue done begin again, begin again."
J. F. M.
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_The Rebellious Prayer_ (Vol. vii., p. 286.).--J. A. may find the poem, of which he quotes the opening lines, in the _Churchman's Monthly Penny Magazine_, October, 1851, with the signature L. E. P. The magazine is published by Wertheim & Macintosh, 24. Paternoster Row.
M. E.
"_To the Lords of Convention_" (Vol. vii., p. 596.).--L. EVANS will find the whole of the ballad of "Bonnie Dundee," the first line of which he quotes, in Sir Walter Scott's _Doom of Devorgoil_, where it is introduced as a song. Singularly enough, his best ballad is thus found in his worst play.
FICULNUS.
_Wooden Tombs and Effigies_ (Vol. vii., pp. 528. 607.).--In a chapel adjoining the church of Heveningham in Suffolk, are (or rather were in 1832) the remains of a good altar tomb, with recumbent effigies carved in chesnut, of a knight and his lady: it appeared to be, from the armour and architecture, of the early part of the fifteenth century; and from the arms, _Quarterly or and gules within a border engrailed sable, charged with escallops argent_, no doubt belonged to the ancient family of Heveningham of that place; probably Sir John Heveningham, knight of the shire for the county of Suffolk in the 1st of Henry IV.
When I visited this tomb in 1832, it was in a most dilapidated condition: the slab on which the effigy of the knight once rested was broken in; within the head of the lady, which was separated from the body, a thrush had built its nest: notwithstanding, however, the neglect and damp to which the chapel was exposed, these chesnut effigies remained wonderfully sound and perfect.
SPES.
The monument to Sir Walter Traylli and his lady, in Woodford Church in Northamptonshire, is of wood.
There is a wooden effigy in Gayton Church, Northamptonshire, of a knight templar, recumbent, in a cross-legged position, his feet resting on an animal: over the armour is a surcoat; the helmet is close fitted to the head, his right hand is on the hilt of his sword, a shield is on the left arm.
There is also a fine wooden effigy of Sir Hugh Bardolph in Burnham Church in Norfolk.
J. B.
In Fersfield Church, in Norfolk, there is a wooden figure to the memory of Sir Robert Du Bois, Kt., ob. 1311. See Bloomfield's _Norfolk_, vol. i. p. 68.
J. B.
_Lord Clarendon and the Tubwoman_ (Vol. vii., pp. 133. 211. 634.).--Upon reference to the story of the "tubwoman" in p. 133., it will be seen that Mr. Hyde is distinctly stated to have himself married the brewer's widow, and to have married her for her money. It is farther said that Ann Hyde, the mother of Queen Mary and Queen Ann, was the only issue of this marriage; whereas Ann Hyde had four brothers and a sister. No allusion is made in this account to Sir Thomas Ailesbury. Your correspondent MR. WARDEN says, that "the story has _usually_ been told of the wife of Sir Thomas Ailesbury," and that it may be true of her. Will he have the kindness to furnish a reference to the version of the story in which Sir Thomas Ailesbury is said to have married the tubwoman?
L.
_House-marks_ (Vol. vii., p. 594.).--I do not know whether [alpha]. recollects the frequent occurrence of _marks_ upon sheep in this country. Although I have often seen them, I cannot just now describe one accurately. Some sheep passed my house yesterday which were marked with a _cross_ within a circle.
Riding with a friend, a miller, in Essex, about thirteen years ago, he jumped out of the gig and over a gate, to seize a sack which was lying in a field. Seeing no initials upon it, I asked how he knew that it was his; when he pointed out to me a fish marked upon it, which he told me had been his own and his father's mark for many years. He also said that most of the millers in the neighbourhood had a peculiar _mark_ (not their names or initials), each a different one for his own sacks.
A. J. N.
Birmingham.
"_Amentium haud amantium_" (Vol. vii., p. 595.).--Your correspondent's Query sent me at once to a queer old _Terence in English_, together with the text, "_opera ac industria R. B., in Axholmensi insula, Lincolnsherii Epwortheatis_. [London, Printed by John Legatt, and are to be sold by Andrew Crooke, at the sign of the Green-Dragon, in Paul's Church Yard. 1641.] 6th Edition."
Here, as I expected, I found an alliterative translation of the phase in question "For they are fare as they were _lunaticke, and not love-sicke_."
The translation, I may add, is in prose.
OXONIENSIS.
Walthamstow.
_The Megatherium in the British Museum_ (Vol. vii., p. 590.).--It is much to be regretted that A FOREIGN SURGEON should not have examined the contents of the room which contains the cast of the skeleton of this animal with a little more attention, before he penned the above article. Had he done so, he would have found many of the original bones, from casts of which the restored skeleton has been constructed, in Wall Cases 9 and 10, and would not have fallen into the error of supposing that it is a _fac-simile_ of the original skeleton at Madrid. _That_ specimen was exhumed near Buenos Ayres in 1789; whilst our restoration {20} has been made from bones of another individual, many of which are, as I have stated, to be found in the British Museum itself, and others in that of the Royal College of Surgeons. I are not about to defend the propriety of putting the trunk of a palm-tree into the claws of the Megatherium, though I do not suppose that the restorer ever expected, when he did so, that any one would entertain the idea that this gigantic beast was in the habit of climbing trees; but I would fain ask your correspondent on what grounds he makes the dogmatic assertion that "Palms there were none, at that period of telluric formation." I will simply remind him of the vast numbers of fossil fruits, and other remains of palms, in the London clay of the Isle of Sheppey.
W. J. BERNHARD SMITH.
Temple.
_Pictorial Proverbs_ (Vol. v., p. 559.).--Perhaps the book here mentioned is one of the old German _Narrenbuchs_, or _Book of Fools_, which were generally illustrated with pictures, of which I have a curious set in my possession.
Can any of your correspondents give some account of the nature and merits of these books? Are any of them worth translating at the present day? The one from which my pictures were taken has the title _Mala Gallina, malum Ovum_, and was published at Vienna and Nuremburg. It seems to have been a satire on the female sex; but the text, I am sorry to say, is not in my possession.
H. T. RILEY.
_"Hurrah," and other War-cries_ (Vol. vii., p. 596.).--The following passage (which I find in my notes with the reference _Menagiana_, vol. ii. p. 328.) may partially assist your correspondent CAPE:
"Le cri des anciens Comtes d'Anjou etoit _Rallie_. En voici l'origine. Eude II., Comte de Blois, marchant avec une armee considerable contre Foulke Nerra, Comte d'Anjou, ces deux princes se rencontrerent a Pontlevoi sur le Cher, ou ils se livrerent bataille le 6 Juillet, 1016. Foulke eut d'abord quelque desavantage; mais Herbert, Comte du Maine (dit _Eveillechien_), etant venu a son secours, il rallia ses troupes, and defit absolument, &c. Depuis ce temps-la le cri des anciens Comtes d'Anjou etoit _Rallie_. Et a ce propos je vous rapporterai ce qu'en dit Maitre Vace, surnomme _le Clerc de Caen_, dans son Roman de Normandie:
'Francois crie _Montjoye_, et Normans _Dex-aye_: Flamands crie _Aras_, et Angevin _Rallie_: Et li cuens Thiebaut _Chartre_ et _Passavant_ crie.'"
This last cry is not unlike the Irish "Faugh-a-Ballagh" in signification.
J. H. LERESCHE.
Manchester.
The following extracts from Sir Francis Palgrave's _History of Normandy and England_, vol. i. p. 696., explain the origin of the word "Hurrah," respecting which one of your correspondents inquires:
"It was a 'wise custom' in Normandy, established by Rollo's decree, that whoever sustained, or feared to sustain, any damage of goods or chattels, life or limb, was entitled to raise the country by the cry of _haro_, or _haron_, upon which cry all the lieges were bound to join in pursuit of the offender,--_Haron! Ha Raoul!_ justice invoked in Duke Rollo's name. Whoever failed to aid, made fine to the sovereign; whilst a heavier mulct was consistently inflicted upon the mocker who raised the _clameur de haro_ without due and sufficient cause, a disturber of the commonwealth's tranquillity.
"The _clameur de haro_ is the English system of 'hue and cry.' The old English exclamation _Harrow!_ our national vernacular _Hurrah!_ being only a variation thereof, is identical with the supposed invocation of the Norman chieftain; and the usage, suggested by common sense, prevailed under various modifications throughout the greater part of the Pays Coutumier of France."
A. M. S.
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