Notes And Queries Number 188 June 4 1853 A Medium Of Inter Comm
Chapter 5
"Maximilian so far forth prevailed, both with the young lady and with the principal persons about her, as the marriage was consummated by proxy, with a ceremony at that time in these parts new. For she was not only publicly contracted, but stated, as a bride, and solemnly bedded; and after she was laid, there came in Maximilian's ambassador with letters of procuration, and in the presence of sundry noble personages, men and women, put his leg, stripped naked to the knee, between the espousal sheets," &c.
TYRO.
Dublin.
_Old Fogie_ (Vol. vii., p. 354.).--MR. KEIGHTLEY supposes the term of _old fogie_, as applied to "mature old warriors," to be "of pure Irish origin," or "rather of Dublin birth." In this he is certainly mistaken, for the word _fogie_, as applied to old soldiers, is as well known, and was once as familiarly used in Scotland, as it ever was or could have been in Ireland. The race was extinct before my day, but I understand that formerly the permanent garrisons of Edinburgh, and I believe also of Stirling, Castles, consisted of veteran companies; and I remember, when I first came to Edinburgh, of people who had seen them, still talking of "the Castle fogies."
Dr. Jamieson, in his _Scottish Dictionary_, defines the word "foggie or fogie," to be first, "an invalid, or garrison soldier," secondly, "a person advanced in life" and derives it from "Su. G. _fogde_, formerly one who had the charge of a garrison."
This seems to me a more satisfactory derivation than MR. KEIGHTLEY'S, who considers it a corruption or diminutive of _old folks_.
J. L.
City Chambers, Edinburgh.
_Errata corrigenda._--Vol. ii., p. 356. col. 2., near the bottom, for Sir _William_ Jardine, read Sir _Henry_ Jardine. Sir William and Sir Henry were very different persons, though the former was probably the more generally known. Sir H. was the author of the report referred to.
Vol. vii., p. 441. col. 1. line 15, for _Lenier_ read _Ferrier_.
J. L.
City Chambers, Edinburgh.
_Anecdote of Dutens_ (Vol. vii., pp. 26. 390.).--
"Lord Lansdowne at breakfast mentioned of Dutens, who wrote _Memoires d'un Voyageur qui se repose_, and was a great antiquarian, that, on his describing once his good luck in having found (what he fancied to be) a tooth of Scipio's in Italy, some one asked him what he had done with it, upon which he answered briskly: 'What have I done with it? Le voici,' pointing to his mouth; where he had made it supplemental to a lost one of his own."--Moore's _Journal_, vol. iv. p. 271.
E. H. A.
_Gloves at Fairs_ (Vol. vii., p. 455.).--In Hone's _Every-day Book_ (vol. ii. p. 1059.) is the following paragraph:--
"EXETER LAMMAS FAIR.--The charter for this fair is perpetuated by a glove of immense size, stuffed and carried through the city on a very long pole, decorated with ribbons, flowers, &c., and attended with music, parish beadles, and the mobility. It is afterwards placed on the top of the Guildhall, and then the fair commences: on the taking down of the glove, the fair terminates.--P."
As to Crolditch, _alias_ Lammas Fair, at Exeter, see Izacke's _Remarkable Antiquities of the City of Exeter_, pp. 19, 20.
C. H. COOPER.
Cambridge.
At Macclesfield, in Cheshire, a large glove was, perhaps is, always suspended from the outside of the window of the town-hall during the holding of a fair; and as long as the glove was so suspended, every one was free from arrest within the {560} township, and, I have heard, while going and returning to and from the fair.
EDWARD HAWKINS.
At Free Mart, at Portsmouth, a glove used to be hung out of the town-hall window, and no one could be arrested during the fortnight that the fair lasted.
F. O. MARTIN.
_Arms--Battle-axe_ (Vol. vii., p. 407.).--The families which bore three Dane-axes or battle-axes in their coats armorial were very numerous in ancient times. It may chance to be of service to your Querist A.C. to be informed, that those of Devonshire which displayed these bearings were the following: Dennys, Batten, Gibbes, Ledenry, Wike, Wykes, and Urey.
J. D. S.
_Enough_ (Vol. vii., p. 455.).--In Staffordshire, and I believe in the other midland counties, this word is usually pronounced _enoo_, and written _enow_. In Richardson's _Dictionary_ it will be found "enough or enow;" and the etymology is evidently from the German _genug_, from the verb _genugen_, to suffice, to be enough, to content, to satisfy. The Anglo-Saxon is _genog_. I remember the burden of an old song which I frequently heard in my boyish days:
"I know not, I care not, I cannot tell how to woo, But I'll away to the merry green woods, And there get nuts _enow_."
This evidently shows what the pronunciation was when it was written.
J. A. H.
_Enough_ is from the same root as the German _genug_, where the first _g_ has been lost, and the latter softened and almost lost in its old English pronunciation, _enow_. The modern pronunciation is founded, as that of many other words is, upon an affected style of speech, ridiculed by Holofernes.[4] The word _bread_, for example, is almost universally called _bred_; but in Chaucer's poetry and indeed now in Yorkshire, it is pronounced bre-aed, a dissyllable.
T. J. BUCKTON.
Birmingham.
[Footnote 4: The Euphuists are probably chargeable with this corruption.]
In Vol. vii., p. 455. there is an inquiry respecting the change in the pronunciation of the word _enough_, and quotations are given from Waller, where the word is used, rhyming with _bow_ and _plough_. But though spelt _enough_, is not the word, in both places, really _enow_? and is there not, in fact, a distinction between the two words? Does not _enough_ always refer to _quantity_, and _enow_ to _number_: the former, to what may be _measured_; the latter, to that which may be _counted_? In both quotations the word _enough_ refers to _numbers_?
S. S. S.
_Feelings of Age_ (Vol. vii., p. 429.).--A.C. asks if it "is not the general feeling, that man in advancing years would not like to begin life again?" I fear not. It is a wisdom above the average of what men possess that made the good Sir Thomas Browne say:
"Though I think no man can live well once, but he that could live twice, yet for my own part I would not live over my hours past, or begin again the thread of my dayes: not upon Cicero's ground--because I have lived them well--but for fear I should live them worse. I find my growing judgment daily instruct me how to be better, but my untamed affections and confirmed vitiosity make me daily do worse. I find in my confirmed age the same sins I discovered in my youth; I committed many then, because I was a child, and, because I commit them still, I am yet an infant. Therefore I perceive a man may be twice a child before the days of dotage, and stand in need of AEson's bath before threescore."
The annotator refers to _Cic._, lib. xxiv. ep. 4.:
"Quod reliquum est, sustenta te, mea Terentia, ut potes, honestissime. Viximus: floruimus: non vitium nostrum, sed virtus nostra, nos afflixit. Peccatum est nullum, nisi quod non una animam cum ornamentis amisimus."--Edit. Orell., vol. iii. part i. p. 335.
However, it seems probable that Sir Thomas meant that this sentiment is rather to be gathered from Cicero's writings,--not enunciated in a single sentence.
H. C. K.
---- Rectory, Hereford.
_Optical Query_ (Vol. vii., p. 430.).--In reply to the optical Query by H. H., I venture to suggest that a stronger gust of wind than usual might easily occasion the illusion in question, as I myself have frequently found in looking at the fans on the tops of chimneys. Or possibly the eyes may have been confused by gazing on the revolving blades, just as the tongue is frequently influenced in its accentuation by pronouncing a word of two syllables in rapid articulations.
F. F. S.
Oxford.
_Cross and Pile_ (Vol. vii., p.487.).--Here is another explanation at least as satisfactory as some of the previous ones:
"The word _coin_ itself is money struck on the _coin_ or head of the flattened metal, by which word _coin_ or _head_ is to be understood the _obverse_, the only side which in the infancy of coining bore the stamp. Thence the Latin _cuneus_, from _cune_ or _kyn_, the head.
"This side was also called _pile_, in corruption from _poll_, a head, not only from the side itself being the _coin_ or _head_, but from its being impressed most commonly with some head in contradistinction to the reverse, which, in latter times, was oftenest a cross. Thence the vulgarism, _cross or pile, poll, head_."--Cleland's _Specimen of an Etymological Vocabulary_, p. 157.
A. HOLT WHITE.
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_Capital Punishments_ (Vol. vii., pp. 52. 321.).--The authorities to which W. L. N. refers not being generally accessible, he would confer a very great obligation by giving the names and dates of execution of any of the individuals alluded to by him, who have undergone capital punishment in this country for exercising the Roman Catholic religion. Herein, it is almost needless to remark, I exclude such cases as those of Babington, Ballard, Parsons, Garnett, Campion, Oldcorne, and others, their fellows, who suffered, as every reader of history knows, for treasonable practices against the civil and christian policy and government of the realm.
COWGILL.
_Thomas Bonnell_ (Vol. vii., p. 305.).--In what year was this person, about whose published _Life_ J. S. B. inquires, Mayor of Norwich? His name, as such, does not occur in the lists of Nobbs, Blomefield, or Ewing.
COWGILL.
_Passage in the First Part of Faust_ (Vol. vii., p. 501.).--MR. W. FRASER will find good illustrations of the question he has raised in his second suggestion for the elucidation of this passage in _The Abbot_, chap. 15. _ad fin._ and _note_.
A few weeks after giving this reference, in answer to a question by EMDEE (see "N. & Q.," Vol. i., p. 262.; Vol. ii., p. 47.), I sent in English, for I am not a German scholar, as an additional reply to EMDEE, the very same passage that MR. FRASER has just forwarded, but it was not inserted, probably because its fitness as an illustration was not very evident.
My intention in sending that second reply was to show that, as in _Christabel_ and _The Abbot_, the voluntary and _sustained_ effort required to introduce the evil spirit was of a physical, so in _Faust_ it was of a mental character; and I confess that I am much pleased now to find my opinion supported by the accidental testimony of another correspondent.
It must, however, be allowed that the peculiar wording of the passage under consideration may make it difficult, if not impossible, to separate _earnest_ from the _magical_ form in which Faust's command to enter his room is given. Goethe's intention, probably, was to combine and illustrate both.
As proofs of the belief in the influence of the number _three_ in incantation, I may refer to Virg. _Ecl._ viii. 73--78.; to a passage in Apuleius, which describes the resuscitation of a corpse by Zachlas, the Egyptian sorcerer;
"Propheta, sic propitiatus, herbulam quampiam ter ob os corporis, et aliam pectori ejus imponit."--Apul. _Metamorph._, lib. ii. sect. 39. (Regent's Classics);
and to the rhyming spell that raised the White Lady of Avenel at the Corrie nan Shian. (See _The Monastery_, chaps. xi. and xvii.)
C. FORBES.
_Sir Josias Bodley_ (Vol. vii., p. 357.).--Your correspondent Y. L. will find some account of the family of Bodley in Prince's _Worthies of Devon_, edit. 1810, pp. 92-105., and in Moore's _History of Devon_, vol. ii. pp. 220-227. See also "N. & Q.," Vol. iv., pp. 59. 117. 240.
J. D. S.
_Claret_ (Vol. vii., p. 237.).--The word _claret_ is evidently derived directly from the French word _clairet_; which is used, even at the present day, as a generic name for the "_vins ordinaires_," of a light and thin quality, grown in the south of France. The name is never applied but to red wines; and it is very doubtful whether it takes its appellation from any place, being always used adjectively--"_vin clairet_," not _vin_ de _clairet_. I am perhaps not quite correct in stating, that the word is always used as an adjective; for we sometimes find _clairet_ used alone as a substantive; but I conceive that in this case the word _vin_ is to be understood, as we say "du Bordeaux," "du Champagne," meaning "du vin de Bordeaux," "du vin de Champagne." _Eau clairette_ is the name given to a sort of cherry-brandy; and lapidaries apply the name _clairette_ to a precious stone, the colour of which is not so deep as it ought to be. This latter fact may lead one to suppose that the wine derived its name from being _clearer_ and lighter in colour than the more full-bodied vines of the south. The word is constantly occurring in old drinking-songs. A song of Olivier Basselin, the minstrel of Vire, begins with these words:
"Beau nez, dont les rubis out coute mainte pipe De vin blanc et clairet."
By the way, this song is the original of one in the musical drama of _Jack Sheppard_, which many of the readers of "N. & Q." may remember, as it became rather popular at the time. It began thus:
"Jolly nose, the bright gems that illumine thy tip, Were dug from the mines of Canary."
I am not aware that the plagiarism has been noticed before.
HONORE DE MAREVILLE.
Guernsey.
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