Notes and Queries, Number 166, January 1, 1853 A Medium of Inter-communication for Literary Men, Artists, Antiquaries, Genealogists, etc.

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_Early Phonography_ (Vol. vi., p. 424.).--"Have the modern phonographists ever owned their debt of gratitude to their predecessors in the phonetic art?"

The subjoined advertisement may perhaps be considered an answer to this Query:

"Hart's Orthography, 1569; or, 'An Orthographie conteyning the due order and reason, howe to write or paint thimage of manne's voice, most like to the life or nature. Composed by J. H. [John Hart], Chester Heralt;' reprinted from a copy in the British Museum. Cloth, 2s.

"An unanswerable defence of Phonetic Spelling, and one of the earliest schemes of Phonetic Orthography. A considerable portion of the book being printed in the author's Phonetic Alphabet (given in the present edition in Phonetic Longhand), we have thus exhibited the pronunciation of the age of Shakspeare."

W. C. TREVELYAN.

_Kentish Local Names; Dray_ (Vol. vi., p. 410.).--In the low embanked land in the west of Somersetshire, between Bristol and Taunton, the word _drove_ is used in the same acceptation; and _driftway_, I think, is also a term for ancient British roads in some parts of the kingdom.

W. C. TREVELYAN.

_Monument at Modstena_ (Vol. vi., p. 388.).--This monument was first published in _Archæologia Æliana_. I believe it is an incised slab; but I have written to a friend in the north to inquire whether I am correct.

W. C. TREVELYAN.

_Book-plates_ (Vol. iii., p. 495.).--MR. PARSONS, it appears, limits his inquiries to English book-plates, about which I cannot offer any information. It is certain, however, that book-plates were used on the Continent at a very early period. I remember to have seen one, from a wood-block, which was cut by Albert Dürer for his friend Pirkheimer. As it is sixteen years since I saw it at the Imperial Library at Vienna, I cannot be expected to give a precise description; but (as far as I recollect) the wording of it was as follows: "Bilibaldi Pirckheimeri et Amicorum."

A copy which I possess of Vesalius's great anatomical work (Basil, 1555) has the book-plate of a former Duke of Mecklenburg pasted inside the cover. It is a woodcut, ten inches by six and a half, representing the ducal arms, surrounded by an ornamented border. Beneath are the date and inscription:

15 E 75 H. G. V. V. G. VLRICH H. Z. ME- CKELNBVRG.

I do not know what the first six letters stand for, nor is it worth inquiring. The latter part of the inscription--"Ulrich Herzog zu Mecklenburg"--identifies the former possessor of the volume.

JAYDEE.

"_World without end_" (Vol. vi., p. 434.).--Besides the places named by F. A., this phrase occurs in the authorised version of the Bible, in Is. xlv. 17., Ep. iii. 21. There is no doubt it is idiomatic, and is even now occasionally used in conversation. Our translators render at least three Hebrew words "world," and as many Greek ones. One of the latter, and two of the former, properly refer to _time_, like the Latin _ævum sæculum_; and this also {27} appears to have been the original meaning of "world," as it is one which it certainly has frequently in the Scriptures. "World without end" is the idiomatic rendering, equivalent to "in sæcula sæculorum," which is a literal following of an idiom common in both the Hebrew and Greek Scriptures, and to be found in the Chaldee of the Book of Daniel. "World without end" does not occur, so far as I am aware, in the modern European languages, which generally either follow the Latin "in sæcula sæculorum;" or the German, and say, "eternally to eternity."

B. H. COWPER.

_Gloucester Ballads_ (Vol. iv., p. 311.).--Since I inserted these ballads, I have been informed, that the one entitled a "Gloucester Ditty" was from the pen of Charles Dibdin, who, paying a visit to the "fair city," was pressed by some friends to leave them a memento of such. Of my own knowledge, I cannot vouch for the truth of this story; my informant's veracity is, however, unquestionable. I have recently obtained another copy; like the former, it is without a date, but bears the well-known imprint, "Raikes, Southgate Street."

The "Old Harry" is intended for one "Harry Hudman, King of the Island," a low district in Gloucester, a mock officer chosen by the lower orders. Harry kept the throne many years, but was at length outvoted; but resolving to retain by stratagem what he could not by free choice, invited his competitor to a glass; and while the latter was taking his draught, Harry jumped into his seat, was chaired through the island, and was thus king another year. There was a ballad relating to this worthy, commencing--

"There was a man of renown, In Gloucester's fam'd town."

Another verse informs us that--

"Old coffins ne'er new, And old pulpits too, Can be bought at his shop in the island."

The "Taylor's Tale" alluded to is a ballad, written by person of that name, on the manners and customs of the island. I have not been able to obtain copies of either of these just noticed ballads; and should any correspondent of "N. & Q." possess such, they would oblige me by their insertion.

H. G. D.

_Satirical Prints; Pope_ (Vol. vi., p. 434.).--I have never seen this print that your correspondent refers to. It will no doubt be found, however, to be a plate illustrating a _scene_ in the following tract: "_A Letter from Mr. Cibber to Mr. Pope, &c._: London, printed and sold by W. Lewis in Russell Street, Covent Garden, 1742," see pp. 45, 46, 47, 48, 49., where is given rather a warm description of the whole scene. Should this tract not be had by GRIFFIN, he may turn to D'Israeli's _Quarrels of Authors_, article "Pope and Cibber," note p. 193., col. 2., edit. 8vo., Moxon, 1840; where D'Israeli adds:

"This story, by our comic writer, was accompanied by a print, that was seen by more persons, probably, than read the _Dunciad_."

S. WMSON.

_Raising the Wind_ (Vol. vi., p. 486.).--We say "the wind rises," and this is common in Virgil (see _Æneid._ iii. 130. 481.; v. 777.: _Georgics_, i. 356.; ii. 333.; and iii. 134.). The transition from rising to raising is easy; and as there is no sailing without a breeze, so there is no getting along without money: in both cases, the _wind_ is essential to progress. As to the mode of obtaining the "needful," I know not much, but probably whistling will be found as effectual in one case as in the other.

B. H. COWPER.

_Milton in Prose_ (Vol. vi., p. 340.).--I know of one performance in the French language, which answers the description of _Milton in Prose_: it is a rhapsody entitled _Le Paradis Terrestre, Poëme imité de Milton_, by Madame Dubocage: London, 1748. The French themselves had so poor an opinion of it, that one of their wits, the Abbé Yart, has ridiculed it in the following epigram:

"Sur cet écrit, charmante Dubocage, Veux-tu savoir quel est mon sentiment? Je compte pour _perdus_, en lisant ton ouvrage, Le Paradis, mon temps, ta peine, et mon argent."

HENRY H. BREEN.

St. Lucia.

_The Arundelian Marbles_ (Vol. iv., p. 361.).--MR. W. SIDNEY GIBSON, in his account of this celebrated collection, quotes portions of an interesting letter, from James Theobald to Lord Willoughby de Parham, but he does not say from whence he obtained it. I have now before me two copies, one in _Historical Anecdotes of the Howard Family_, a new edition, 1817, p. 101.; the other in a work entitled _Oxoniana_ (published by Richard Phillips, 4 vols. 12mo., no date), vol. iii. p. 42. Now both these copies differ from MR. GIBSON'S, and all three are at variance respecting some of those minor details which are of so much importance in inquiries of this description. Where is a _genuine_ copy of Mr. Theobald's letter to be found?

EDWARD F. RIMBAULT.

_Pambotanologia_ (Vol. vi., p. 462.).--INIVRI will find a full account of this work in Pulteney's _Historical and Biographical Sketches of the Progress of Botany in England_, vol. i. p. 181.

GEORGE MUNFORD.

East Winch.

_Can a Man baptize himself?_ (Vol. vi., pp. 36. 110.).--This question has not yet received any {28} correct answer. The following quotation from the _Summa_ of St. Thomas Aquinas will resolve it as far as your querist W. is concerned:

"Similiter autem Forma mutaretur, si diceretur 'Ego baptizo me;' et ideo nullus potest baptizare seipsum propter quod et CHRISTUS a Joanne voluit baptizari."--_Summa_, 3^{tia} Pars, Quæstio lxvi. Art. v. Arg. 4.

The REV. A. GATTY, while right in the negative answer which he gives to the question of W., is quite wrong in the reasons on which he founds it. "Christian fellowship" is _not_ of necessity a requisite for administering the sacrament of holy baptism. I quote again from the _Summa_ of St. Thomas:

"Ad primum ergo dicendum, quod Baptismum a schismaticis recipere non licet, nisi in articulo necessitatis: quia melius est de hâc vitâ cum signo CHRISTI exire, a quocumque detur, etiam si sit Judæus vel Paganus, quam sine hoc signo, quod per Baptismum confertur."--_Summa_, 2^{nda} Pars, Quæstio xxxix. Art. iv. Arg. 1.

As our own Church apparently only recognises sacerdotal baptism in her formularies, in answering such a question as that of W. we must have recourse to the schoolmen and casuists of earlier times.

W. FRASER.

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PETER THE SAXONIAN _is referred to our_ 1st Vol., p. 102., _where he will find that both Blair and Campbell were anticipated by Norris of Bemerton, who sang of_

"Angels' visits, short and bright."

R. G. L. _The meaning and derivation of_ DITTO _are obvious. It means_ "the same," _from the Italian_ ditto, _the said_.

TOUCHSTONE. _Music is sometimes engraved, sometimes printed from moveable types._

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