Part 59
Mr. CRAIGE, of North Carolina:--I call the gentleman to order, and insist upon the enforcement of the rules.
Mr. MAYNARD [amid loud cries of "Order!"] moved to postpone the vote upon the pending propositions until to-morrow after the morning hour.
The motion was not agreed to.
And again, the same day, February 27th, the following effort was made:
Mr. McCLERNAND:--I wish to state that I understand there is on the Speaker's table a communication from the president of the Peace Conference. I ask the unanimous consent of the House that it be taken up and read.
Mr. LOVEJOY:--I object.
So action was further delayed.
_March 1st, 1861._--When a communication from the Navy Department came up for consideration in the House, the motion to postpone the special order brought out the following action on the communication of the Peace Conference:
The SPEAKER:--There is a communication, which has been for some time lying upon the Speaker's table, from the president of the Peace Conference. The Chair thinks it is right that it should be taken up.
Mr. LOVEJOY:--I object.
Mr. GROW:--I call for the regular order of business.
The SPEAKER:--The Chair has not thought proper to present it until the propositions of the Committee of Thirty-three had been disposed of; but he thinks it right that they should now be presented.
Mr. STEVENS, of Pennsylvania:--I object, on behalf of John Tyler, who does not want them in. [Laughter.]
Mr. McCLERNAND:--I move to suspend the rules.
Mr. GROW:--I call for the regular order of business.
The SPEAKER:--The Chair thinks he ought to have the privilege of presenting these papers.
Mr. GROW:--I rise to a question of order. The territorial business is the special order. I am entitled to the floor; and I submit that it cannot be taken from me by any motion to suspend the rules.
The SPEAKER:--The Chair thinks the motion to suspend the rules is in order.
Mr. GROW:--The Chair can hardly understand my question of order. It is that the territorial business is the special order, made so by a suspension of the rules. While that is pending, therefore, by the uniform decision of the House, no motion can be entertained to suspend the rules.
The SPEAKER:--The territorial business was made the special order for the two succeeding days after the propositions reported by the Committee of Thirty-three had been disposed of.
Mr. BOTELER:--I want to know if there is any business, or can be any business, that should take precedence of these propositions of the Peace Conference?
Mr. LOVEJOY:--Yes, sir; there are ten thousand things that should take precedence.
The SPEAKER:--The Chair decides that the gentleman from Illinois [Mr. McCLERNAND] has the floor, and is entitled to make the motion to suspend the rules.
Mr. GROW:--Do I understand the Chair to decide that the business of the Territories does not come up to-day?
The SPEAKER:--The Chair is of opinion that, under a strict construction of the rule, it would properly come up to-morrow.
Mr. GROW:--I appeal from the decision of the Chair.
Mr. HATTON: I move to lay that appeal on the table.
Mr. HICKMAN:--Upon that motion, I call for tellers.
Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois:--Before the House divides upon the appeal, I desire the Chair to state precisely what the point of order is that we are to vote upon.
The SPEAKER:--The Chair decided that the gentleman from Illinois [Mr. McCLERNAND] had the floor, and was in order in moving to suspend the rules for the purpose of receiving the communication the Chair desired to lay before the House. From that decision an appeal was taken, and a motion made to lay the appeal on the table. The question is now upon the latter motion.
Mr. GROW:--I rise to a question of order again. The Chair has not stated my question of order correctly. My point of order was, that the business of the Territories was set down as a special order immediately after the disposal of the business of the Committee of Thirty-three.
Mr. HATTON:--I call the gentleman from Pennsylvania to order.
Mr. GROW:--I have the right to state my point of order.
The SPEAKER:--The gentleman from Pennsylvania will state his point of order.
Mr. GROW:--It is, that the Territorial business having been made the special order, comes up now as the regular order of business.
The SPEAKER:--The Chair decides that the gentleman from Illinois obtained the floor, and had the right to submit the motion to suspend the rules.
Mr. GROW:--He had no right to take the floor from me for any such purpose.
The SPEAKER:--The Chair overrules the question of order.
Mr. GROW:--And from that decision I take an appeal.
The SPEAKER:--The appeal is already pending; and a motion has been made to lay the appeal on the table.
Mr. GROW:--I call for tellers on the motion.
Tellers were ordered, and Messrs. ADRAIN and GROW were appointed.
The House divided; and the tellers reported--forty-seven in the affirmative.
Mr. HOWARD, of Michigan:--I move that the House adjourn.
Before the vote had been taken on the motion, the hour of five arrived; and
The SPEAKER declared the House had taken a recess until seven o'clock.
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EVENING SESSION.
The House reassembled at seven o'clock P.M.
COMMUNICATION OF THE PEACE CONFERENCE.
Mr. GROW:--What is the regular order of business?
The SPEAKER:--The Chair had decided that the gentleman from Illinois [Mr. McCLERNAND] was entitled to the floor, to move that the rules be suspended to receive a communication from the Peace Conference. From that decision the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. GROW] appealed; and a motion was made to lay the appeal on the table.
Mr. McCLERNAND:--I think we can perhaps agree to an arrangement that will be satisfactory to gentlemen upon both sides, by which any difficulty upon the question of order can be avoided. If gentlemen upon that side of the House will allow the propositions to be presented, we are willing that they shall be referred, and the House then proceed to the consideration of the territorial business.
Mr. KELLOGG, of Illinois:--I hope that will be done.
Mr. LOVEJOY:--I object to the reception of the proposition.
Mr. HICKMAN:--There are but few members present. I move that there be a call of the House.
The motion was disagreed to.
Mr. HICKMAN:--I ask the Chair for his judgment whether there is a quorum present or not.
The SPEAKER:--In the opinion of the Chair, a quorum is not present.
Mr. McCLERNAND:--I inquire whether there is any objection to the propositions of the Peace Conference being taken up and referred?
Mr. LOVEJOY:--I certainly object in _toto coelo_ to any such proposition.
Mr. BOTELER:--I desire to ask this question: can any member object to the reception of a communication from the Peace Congress?
Mr. LOVEJOY:--It is not a Peace Congress at all. There is no such body known to this House.
Mr. BOTELER:--I merely ask the question for information, for I do not profess to be familiar with the rules; I desire to know whether the objection of a single member can defeat the reception of such a proposition, especially when that single member is known not to be a conservative man, but a man opposed to all compromises?
The SPEAKER:--The Chair will suggest that a great deal of time will be saved by having a call of the House, as there is evidently no quorum present.
A call of the House was taken. A quorum having appeared, the House proceeded to dispose of several special orders, when, on a motion of postponement, it returned in this wise to the Peace Conference:
Mr. LOGAN:--I demand the yeas and nays on the motion to postpone.
The yeas and nays were not ordered.
The special order was then postponed.
Mr. McCLERNAND:--I now move to suspend the rules of the House, for the purpose of receiving the memorial of the Peace Congress, which assembled lately in this city.
Mr. GROW:--To be received? What for?
Mr. McCLERNAND:--For reference I suppose.
Mr. BURNETT:--No; but to get it in, and put it upon its passage.
The SPEAKER:--The Chair understood the proposition to be, that the rules should be suspended, in order that the paper should be received for reference.
Mr. McCLERNAND:--I withdraw that part of the proposition.
Mr. SICKLES:--If it be received, it is then in the power of the House to do with it what it pleases.
Mr. GROW:--The understanding was that the motion should be made for the suspension of the rules only to receive the proposition.
Mr. SICKLES:--That is all right. When the paper gets in, the House can do with it what it may deem fit.
Mr. LOVEJOY:--I demand the yeas and nays.
The yeas and nays were ordered.
Mr. SHERMAN:--Is it proposed to act on the memorial of the Peace Congress?
Mr. SICKLES:--If it comes before the House, it will be for us to say what disposition shall be made of it. [Cries of "Call the roll!"]
Mr. CRAIGE, of North Carolina:--This motion is merely for the suspension of the rules to receive the proposition, and this, therefore, may be considered a test vote. [Cries of "Call the roll!"]
The question was taken; and it was decided in the negative--yeas 93, nays 67; as follows:
YEAS.--Messrs. Charles F. Adams, Green Adams, Adrain, Aldrich, William C. Anderson, Avery, Barr, Barret, Bocock, Boteler, Brabson, Branch, Briggs, Bristow, Brown, Burch, Burnett, Campbell, Horace F. Clark, John B. Clark, John Cochrane, Corwin, James Craig, John G. Davis, De Jarnette, Dunn, Etheridge, Florence, Foster, Fouke, Garnett, Gilmer, Hale, Hall, Hamilton, J. Morrison Harris, John T. Harris, Haskin, Hatton, Hoard, Holman, William Howard, Hughes, Jenkins, Junkin, William Kellogg, Killinger, Kunkel, Larrabee, James M. Leach, Leake, Logan, Maclay, Mallory, Charles D. Martin, Maynard, McClernand, McKenty, McKnight, McPherson, Millson, Millward, Laban T. Moore, Moorehead, Edward Joy Morris, Nelson, Niblack, Nixon, Olin, Pendleton, Peyton, Phelps, Porter, Pryor, Quarles, John H. Reynolds, Rice, Riggs, James C. Robinson, Sickles, Simms, William N.H. Smith, Spaulding, Stevenson, William Stewart, Stokes, Thomas, Vance, Webster, Whiteley, Winslow, Woodson, and Wright--93.
NAYS.--Messrs. Alley, Ashley, Bingham, Blair, Brayton, Buffinton, Burlingame, Burnham, Carey, Case, Coburn, Colfax, Conway, Burton Craige, Dawes, Delano, Duell, Edgerton, Eliot, Ely, Fenton, Ferry, Frank, Gooch, Graham, Grow, Gurley, Helmick, Hickman, Hindman, William A. Howard, Hutchins, Irvine, Francis W. Kellogg, Kenyon, Loomis, Lovejoy, McKean, Morrill, Morse, Palmer, Perry, Potter, Pottle, Christopher Robinson, Royce, Ruffin, Sedgwick, Sherman, Somes, Spinner, Stanton, Stevens, Tappan, Tompkins, Train, Vandever, Van Wyck, Wade, Waldron, Walton, Cadwalader C. Washburn, Elihu B. Washburne, Wells, Wilson, Windom, and Woodruff--67.
So (two thirds not voting in favor thereof) the rules were not suspended.
During the vote,
Mr. WOODSON said:--I rise for information. What are we voting on? [Cries of "Order!"] I cannot for my life imagine how this can be regarded as a test vote. I will vote to receive the proposition of the Peace Conference; but on its passage I will vote against it.
The SPEAKER:--The motion is, to suspend the rules for the reception of the memorial.
Mr. CRAIGE, of North Carolina:--I understood the gentleman from Illinois to state that this was a test vote.
The SPEAKER:--The Chair cannot undertake to decide whether it is a test vote or not.
Mr. JOHN COCHRANE stated that his colleagues, Mr. CLARK B. COCHRANE and Mr. LEE, were paired.
Mr. CRAIGE, of North Carolina:--I would have no objection, Mr. Speaker, to permit this resolution to come before the House, but I understood the gentleman from Illinois to proclaim that this was a test vote. Utterly opposed to any such wishy-washy settlement of our national difficulties, I vote "no."
Mr. CURTIS stated that he was paired with Mr. ANDERSON, of Missouri.
Mr. FOSTER:--While I am willing to vote for the reception of the memorial of the Peace Congress, of which I was a member, still I am unwilling to be considered as favoring their proposition. Is this vote a test vote on that proposition?
The SPEAKER:--The Chair does not think that it is; but each gentleman will decide for himself.
Mr. HALE:--I am willing to receive this memorial in courtesy to the Peace Conference; and not regarding this as a test vote, I vote "ay."
Mr. LEACH, of Michigan, stated that he had paired with Mr. ENGLISH, or he would have voted in the negative.
Mr. LEAKE (when his name was called) said that he regarded this _thing_ as a miserable abortion, forcibly reminding one of the old fable of the mountain and the mouse; nevertheless, he was willing to let the mouse in, in order to have the pleasure of killing it.
Mr. RUFFIN:--As it is announced that this is a test vote, I am compelled to vote "no." Otherwise, I would have been willing to let the matter be brought before the House for its consideration.
Mr. JENKINS:--Who can make this a test vote? Certainly no man in this House. This is a vote to receive the memorial, and nothing more.
Mr. WILSON stated that Mr. VALLANDIGHAM was paired with Mr. BEALE.
Mr. JUNKIN stated that his colleague, Mr. MONTGOMERY, was detained at home by illness.
Mr. NIXON stated that his colleague, Mr. STRATTON, was detained at his room by illness, and that if he were present, he would vote to receive the memorial of the Peace Conference.
Mr. ELY stated that his colleague, Mr. LEE, was detained at his room by indisposition.
Mr. PENDLETON stated that his colleague was detained at his room by indisposition.
Mr. CAMPBELL stated that his colleague, Mr. SCRANTON, was absent from the Hall because of illness.
Mr. POTTER:--As this is a test vote, I vote "no."
Mr. BRAYTON:--I understand this to be a test vote, and therefore vote "no."
Mr. HOARD:--These papers are not before us. They are not printed, and we cannot be supposed to know any thing of them; and I would ask, therefore, how they can be regarded as a test vote? I vote "ay."
Mr. BOCOCK:--Mr. Speaker, out of deference to the Peace Conference, called as it was by my State, I vote to receive this report. But unless the report, as it appears in the papers, can be amended, it cannot receive my approval.
Mr. SHERMAN:--I vote against this, simply because we have no time to consider it.
Mr. HINDMAN:--I vote against suspending the rules, because I desire to defeat the proposition of the Peace Conference, believing it to be unworthy of the vote of any Southern man.
Mr. COX (not being within the bar when his name was called) asked leave to vote.
Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois, objected.
Mr. GARNETT:--Mr. Speaker, intending and desiring to express my abhorrence of these insidious propositions, conceived in fraud and born of cowardice, by giving a direct vote against them, yet from respect for the conference which reported them, I am willing to receive them, and therefore now vote "ay."
Mr. HARRIS, of Virginia:--I vote "ay," because I am in favor of the resolutions as a peace measure.
Mr. MAYNARD:--Believing these propositions eminently wise and just, I will let my vote stand in the affirmative.
Mr. BURNETT:--I hope the Chair will enforce the rules.
The SPEAKER:--I am trying to, all I can; and I hope gentlemen will keep their seats and preserve order.
Mr. DE JARNETTE:--I vote "ay," with the hope of having an opportunity to vote against the propositions of the Peace Conference.
Mr. BOTELER:--I vote "ay," to introduce these propositions, because I believe it to be my duty to do every thing, consistent with honor, to preserve the peace and save the Union of my country.
Mr. COX:--I desire to ask a question of the Chair.
The SPEAKER:--The Chair will hear you.
Mr. COX:--I desire to know whether or not it will be in order to move to suspend the rules to enable me to have my vote recorded?
Mr. SPEAKER:--No, sir.
Mr. COX:--I would like very much to have it recorded in favor of these peace propositions. I vote "ay," if there is no objection.
Mr. HINDMAN:--Consent is not given to the gentleman from Ohio to have his vote recorded.
The SPEAKER:--It is not received.
Mr. ROBINSON, of Rhode Island:--Believing that this is a test vote, I change my vote, and vote "no."
Mr. JOHN COCHRANE:--I wish to know whether the vote of my colleague, CLARK B. COCHRANE, is recorded.
The SPEAKER:--It is not.
Mr. JOHN COCHRANE:--I think he has retired from the House on account of sickness in his family; and I believe he is laboring for the Union in other quarters.
Mr. MILLSON:--I desire to vote.
Objection was made.
Mr. MILLSON:--I am entitled to vote, having been absent upon a committee of conference. I vote "ay."
Mr. HINDMAN:--Is the gentleman entitled to vote under the rules of the House?
Mr. BARR:--Objection comes too late.
The SPEAKER:--It has been usual to allow gentlemen to vote under such circumstances.
Mr. HICKMAN:--Do the rules allow him to vote?
The SPEAKER:--The Chair supposes that is the rule of the House.
Mr. HINDMAN:--I ask to have the rule read.
Mr. MILLSON:--No rule of the House could take away the right of a member to vote when he is absent by order of the House. If the rules deprived a member of the right to vote under such circumstances, it would be void.
The result was announced as above recorded.
Mr. McCLERNAND:--This vote divides the Republican party, and sounds its death knell.
No. V.
REPORTS OF DELEGATES TO STATES.
_Report of the Peace Commissioners to the Legislature of Virginia._
_To His Excellency_ JOHN LETCHER, _Governor of Virginia:_
The undersigned Commissioners, in pursuance of the wishes of the General Assembly, expressed in the resolutions of the 19th day of January last, repaired in due season to the City of Washington. They there found, on the 4th day of February, the day suggested in the overture of Virginia for a Conference with the other States, Commissioners to meet them from the following States, viz.: Rhode Island, New Jersey, Delaware, Maryland, New Hampshire, Vermont, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, and Kentucky. Subsequently, during the continuance of the Conference, at different periods, appeared likewise Commissioners from Tennessee, Massachusetts, Missouri, New York, Maine, Iowa, and Kansas. So that before the close twenty-one States were represented by Commissioners, appointed either by the Legislatures or Governors of the respective States.
The undersigned communicated the resolutions of the General Assembly to this Conference, and, both before its committee appointed to recommend a plan of adjustment, and the Conference itself, urged the propositions known as the CRITTENDEN resolutions, with the modification suggested by the General Assembly of Virginia, as the basis of an acceptable adjustment.
They were not adopted by the Conference, but in lieu thereof, after much discussion, and the consideration of many proposed amendments, the article with seven sections, intended as an amendment to the Constitution, was adopted by sections (not under the rules, being voted on as a whole), and by a vote of the Conference (not taken by States), was directed to be submitted to Congress, with the request that it should be recommended to the States for ratification, which was accordingly done by the President of the Conference.
The undersigned regret that the Journal showing the proceedings and votes in the Conference has not yet been published or furnished them, and that consequently they are not able to present it with this report. As soon as received it will be communicated to your Excellency.
In the absence of that record it is deemed appropriate to state that on the final adoption of the first section, two of the States, Indiana and Missouri, did not vote, and New York was divided, and that the votes by States was, ayes 9, nays 8--Virginia, by a majority of her Commissioners, voting in the negative.
The other sections were adopted by ranging majorities (not precisely recollected), and on the fifth and seventh sections the vote of Virginia was in the negative. The plan, when submitted to Congress, failed to receive its recommendation, and as that body, having adjourned, can take no further cognizance of it, the undersigned feel the contingency has arrived on which they are required to report, as they herein do, the result of their action.
Respectfully,
JOHN TYLER, G.W. SUMMERS, W.C. RIVES, JAS. A. SEDDON.
The above report having been read and ordered to be printed, Mr. SUMMERS stated that the reason it was not signed by Judge BROCKENBROUGH, the other Virginia Commissioner, was because that gentleman was not in Richmond. Mr. SUMMERS presented a communication in which Judge BROCKENBROUGH stated his views at length on the propositions adopted by the Convention, and it was printed, by vote of the Legislature, in connection with the report.
After reviewing the different sections of the propositions adopted by the Peace Conference, Judge BROCKENBROUGH, in his letter, states that the said propositions, _as an entirety_, would have received his vote, and therefore the vote of Virginia, in the Peace Conference, if it had been submitted to a vote in that form.
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_Reports of the New York Commissioners to the Legislature of that State._
MAJORITY REPORT OF THE COMMISSIONERS TO THE PEACE CONVENTION.
_March 23d, 1861._
_To the Honorable the Legislature of the State of New York:_
The Report of the Commissioners appointed by the Legislature of the State of New York to meet Commissioners from other States in the City of Washington on the fourth day of February, 1861, upon the call of the State of Virginia, by resolutions passed by the General Assembly of that State on the nineteenth day of January, 1861.
A copy of the Journal of the Convention is submitted herewith, from which it will be seen that prior to the presence of the Commissioners from New York, that body had been completely organized, rules of order adopted which excluded all persons other than members from witnessing its deliberations, forbidding any publication or other communication of its proceedings, and the taking of any entry from its Journal without leave; in short, requiring all its debates and acts to be kept secret. A committee had also been organized of one from each State to be appointed by the Commissioners from such State, to which the Virginia resolutions were referred, "with all other propositions for the adjustment of existing differences between the States, with authority to report what they might deem right, proper, and necessary to restore harmony and preserve the Union;" and this committee had been in session two days before your Commissioners were enabled to appoint any one of their number upon it. This was done on the eighth of February by the appointment of Mr. Field.
William E. Dodge, one of your Commissioners, took his seat in the Convention on the seventh day of February, 1861, and Messrs. Field, Noyes, Wadsworth, Corning, King, and Wool, on the eighth of February, Mr. Smith on the eleventh, and Judges James and Bronson on the twelfth day of February, and Mr. Granger, who was appointed in the place of Judge Gardiner, who declined, on the eighteenth day of February, 1861.